one more thing

[Guest guest]

On 1/15/02 at 9:20 AM White Wolfe wrote:

 

º> ....love, joy, compassion and equanimity to you all (the tough kind and

ºthe

º> soft fuzzy kind!)....^^~~~~~

º>

º> further up and further in,

º>

º> white wolfe

 

Thanks for the laugh Mark - life cannot be artificially divided

between 'tough' and 'soft'. In a henhouse, chickens are feeling safe

because they haven't seen anything threatening. Throw in a toothless fox

and the chickens will start to cackle and run in panic. Even when the fox opens

its

mouth, that won't stop their behavior. The safety of the henhouse simultaneously

is a prison. Like the 'protected' life of a single child (spoiled brat).

 

One of the 'marks' of a 'true' devotee would be to know that Love conquers all

and to behave accordingly. But when always having been the equivalent of a

henhouse

dweller, Love will remain an unknown. For the sake of (often) religious

argument,

human behavior has been divided into 'good' and 'bad'. The 'good' to be

amplified,,

the 'bad' to be rejected, and banned from society. That is the best recipe to

ensure

an unchanged behavior regarding the 'handling' of these 'evil' tendencies, and

'at best'

the continuation of the effects of suppression, like greed and selfishness. "At

worst",

the effects of these tendencies will dominate society - the US serve as a good

example

of that.

 

The 'engineer's' solution of course, would be to provide a 'useful' expression

for these

'bad' tendencies as not one human is free from them. Only that way, development

can be harmonious. The other way doesn't have to be explored: the past century

was the most violent one in recorded history and the increase in profits from

armament industries indicate that will only get 'worse'.

 

Perhaps taking the above 'at heart' can provide the incentive to speak openly

without feeling suppressed or hindered.

 

Peace,

Jan

[Guest guest]

....you are singing to the choir jan-san....projecting onto my words

you know not who i am any more than i know who you are....the great

tao floods and flows in every direction....knowing others is

intelligence....how much distinction is there between good and

evil....knowing the self is wisdom.....to know honor and keep to

wisdom is to be the valley of the world....how much distinction is

there between yes and no....i rest in the abode of my beloved even as

i dance on the perimeter of the circle....words, crack and sometimes

break, they will not stand the strain of talking about the tao....tao

is beyond words and beyond imagination.....it is neither duality nor

non-duality.....the ten thousand things should be named and not named

and then distinction should stop....if the absolute resides within,

why are we always seeking wisdom outside ourselves....or worse,

trying to impart it to others in the belief that we know what is

better for them than they do themselves....for me, non-duality is the

experience of opening my heart and reaching out with an integral

embrace to include all experience and wisdom that presents itself to

my limited human consciousness.....thus, i am neither that not am i

not that....as before...love, joy, compassion and equanimity to you

all (the tough kind andºthe soft fuzzy kind!)....^^~~~~~º>º> further

up and further in,º>º> white wolfe

p.s. the soft fuzzy love is my non-dual response to harsha's tough

love...allow yourself to yield and you can stay

centered....namaste....^^~~~~~

Thanks for the laugh Mark - life cannot be artificially dividedbetween

'tough' and 'soft'. In a henhouse, chickens are feeling safebecause

they haven't seen anything threatening. Throw in a toothless foxand

the chickens will start to cackle and run in panic. Even when the fox

opens itsmouth, that won't stop their behavior. The safety of the

henhouse simultaneouslyis a prison. Like the 'protected' life of a

single child (spoiled brat). One of the 'marks' of a 'true' devotee

would be to know that Love conquers alland to behave accordingly. But

when always having been the equivalent of a henhouse dweller, Love

will remain an unknown. For the sake of (often) religious

argument,human behavior has been divided into 'good' and 'bad'. The

'good' to be amplified,,the 'bad' to be rejected, and banned from

society. That is the best recipe to ensurean unchanged behavior

regarding the 'handling' of these 'evil' tendencies, and 'at

best'the continuation of the effects of suppression, like greed and

selfishness. "At worst",the effects of these tendencies will dominate

society - the US serve as a good example of that.The 'engineer's'

solution of course, would be to provide a 'useful' expression for

these'bad' tendencies as not one human is free from them. Only that

way, developmentcan be harmonious. The other way doesn't have to be

explored: the past centurywas the most violent one in recorded

history and the increase in profits fromarmament industries indicate

that will only get 'worse'.Perhaps taking the above 'at heart' can

provide the incentive to speak openlywithout feeling suppressed or

hindered.Peace,Jan------------------------ Sponsor

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All paths go

somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,

and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.

Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject

to

[Guest guest]

White wolfe, no "spiritual" lingo can conceal attachments, for

instance to "ordinary family

life" with it's "cherished" values, when preponderant in a mind-body..

Any value system itself will be both the judge and executioner - 'home made' so to say.

Hence the only relevant issue is "optimal human functioning" which is possible

in a wide variety of cultures and a matter of careful observation.

 

 

Peace,

Jan