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Dear Harsha,

thank you for your personal story. If we have no comfort in love,

then we have no comfort in ourselves- in God. There is so much to

learn about this love, so much to unlearn. I guess we only surrender

after were beaten. Yet that is probably the best and right time.

Anyway that was my experience. A big ditto on all that Linda said

and what Lynette says below. Going to add you all to my list of

people to learn from. You are already on my love list!

love

eric.

Beautifully stated Harsha,

In my own experiences, with love, there has been many times, when I pushed

it aside in an attempt to "find comfort" Actually finding comfort in closing

my heart.... How can I say that? woundedness, and pain stemming from a

perceived absence of love. When kundalini began, and all the talk about

"attachments" was pushed onto me. It was so easy to say "Ok, give up love,

its an attachment.. I dont need it anyways.. It doesnt exist... Its an

unreal need... Its all mental. Decidedly deciding that needs were things to

overcome, I allowed myself to attempt to grow shut off from my needs.

Only to discover, that that in itself was an illusion {Not the growth, we

can still grow and be in pain... But the illusion of happiness without

love}... For love was all around me, and needs only become more painful when

they are not allowed to be expressed... So love expressed, needs fulfilled,

actually lightens a human being... Clarifies reality.... One's true self

comes out to play when through all the muddy muck , love is acknowledged...

your story of the woman, so lovely.... I have a clue, that perhaps at the

time she was wiser than you, and perhaps she followed her heart... And found

love. For without that, all the meditation in the world would not have given

her what she needed.

And anyone that wants to step in here and pooh this, well, go ahead, but let

me remind you..... The experience is mine, not from a book, not from a

donkey's mouth, not from some concept or perception. Just from me, my life,

my experience, my truth... And I've been happier than I have ever been when

I acknowledged love.

Love and Grace

Lynette

To find comfort

> We know the world through the mind. Sri Ramana used to

> say that mind is a wonderful power that arises from

> the Self and makes all this visible.

>

> the conscious mind is a manifestation of the Kundalini

> Shakti, the storehouse of all impressions. Ultimately,

> Mind, Kundalini, Shakti, Maya, all these mean the same

> thing.

>

> Jnana makes us aware that the rising of (Mind, Maya,

> Shakti)has a Source which is complete in It Self, the

> pure Sat-Chit-Ananda. The Pure Joy without a trace of

> longing.

>

> It is because of the presence of Sat-Chit-Ananda at

> the core of our being, the whole world is starving for

> love, love or Ananda being the root nature. In one way

> or another, we seek this Ananda or Love. It powerfully

> affects us as human beings.

>

> I remember being at a retreat over 20 years ago and

> talking to this woman in her 60s. She was divorced and

> actively looking for a man.

>

> I advised her to forget about men and finding love and

> all that and focus on meditation and Self-Realization

> and be free. I remember the pained look on her face

> and she said, " But I really need to have a man in my

> life."

>

> I should have apologized to her right away for

> suggesting that she forget about finding love.

>

> I was such a fool then.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

>

>

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We know the world through the mind. Sri Ramana used to

say that mind is a wonderful power that arises from

the Self and makes all this visible.

 

the conscious mind is a manifestation of the Kundalini

Shakti, the storehouse of all impressions. Ultimately,

Mind, Kundalini, Shakti, Maya, all these mean the same

thing.

 

Jnana makes us aware that the rising of (Mind, Maya,

Shakti)has a Source which is complete in It Self, the

pure Sat-Chit-Ananda. The Pure Joy without a trace of

longing.

 

It is because of the presence of Sat-Chit-Ananda at

the core of our being, the whole world is starving for

love, love or Ananda being the root nature. In one way

or another, we seek this Ananda or Love. It powerfully

affects us as human beings.

 

I remember being at a retreat over 20 years ago and

talking to this woman in her 60s. She was divorced and

actively looking for a man.

 

I advised her to forget about men and finding love and

all that and focus on meditation and Self-Realization

and be free. I remember the pained look on her face

and she said, " But I really need to have a man in my

life."

 

I should have apologized to her right away for

suggesting that she forget about finding love.

 

I was such a fool then.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

 

 

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Hello Harsha:

Sometimes it appears that the newly 'liberated' is as self-assured as

the teen who knows it all. Just as the teen can disregard the

thoughts of others safe in his secure 'family backed-up' world the

newly enthusiastic spiritual seeker can know it all because the

beliefs have not necessarily been tested outside of whatever

structure contains the teachings. I guess many of us have been fools

in our teens and fools in our early search :-).

All knowledge and theory is meaningless until it is lived with as one

walks through this journey we call life. Accepting and rejoicing in

love is part of our journey as humans. At least in my humble

opinion.

Love,

Linda

>It is because of the presence of Sat-Chit-Ananda at>the core of our

being, the whole world is starving for>love, love or Ananda being the

root nature. In one way>or another, we seek this Ananda or Love. It

powerfully>affects us as human beings. >I remember being at a retreat

over 20 years ago and>talking to this woman in her 60s. She was

divorced and>actively looking for a man.>I advised her to forget

about men and finding love and>all that and focus on meditation and

Self-Realization>and be free. I remember the pained look on her

face>and she said, " But I really need to have a man in my>life.">I

should have apologized to her right away for>suggesting that she

forget about finding love. >I was such a fool then. >Love to

all>Harsha

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and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

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Beautifully stated Harsha,

 

In my own experiences, with love, there has been many times, when I pushed

it aside in an attempt to "find comfort" Actually finding comfort in closing

my heart.... How can I say that? woundedness, and pain stemming from a

perceived absence of love. When kundalini began, and all the talk about

"attachments" was pushed onto me. It was so easy to say "Ok, give up love,

its an attachment.. I dont need it anyways.. It doesnt exist... Its an

unreal need... Its all mental. Decidedly deciding that needs were things to

overcome, I allowed myself to attempt to grow shut off from my needs.

 

Only to discover, that that in itself was an illusion {Not the growth, we

can still grow and be in pain... But the illusion of happiness without

love}... For love was all around me, and needs only become more painful when

they are not allowed to be expressed... So love expressed, needs fulfilled,

actually lightens a human being... Clarifies reality.... One's true self

comes out to play when through all the muddy muck , love is acknowledged...

 

your story of the woman, so lovely.... I have a clue, that perhaps at the

time she was wiser than you, and perhaps she followed her heart... And found

love. For without that, all the meditation in the world would not have given

her what she needed.

 

And anyone that wants to step in here and pooh this, well, go ahead, but let

me remind you..... The experience is mine, not from a book, not from a

donkey's mouth, not from some concept or perception. Just from me, my life,

my experience, my truth... And I've been happier than I have ever been when

I acknowledged love.

 

Love and Grace

Lynette

 

 

To find comfort

 

> We know the world through the mind. Sri Ramana used to

> say that mind is a wonderful power that arises from

> the Self and makes all this visible.

>

> the conscious mind is a manifestation of the Kundalini

> Shakti, the storehouse of all impressions. Ultimately,

> Mind, Kundalini, Shakti, Maya, all these mean the same

> thing.

>

> Jnana makes us aware that the rising of (Mind, Maya,

> Shakti)has a Source which is complete in It Self, the

> pure Sat-Chit-Ananda. The Pure Joy without a trace of

> longing.

>

> It is because of the presence of Sat-Chit-Ananda at

> the core of our being, the whole world is starving for

> love, love or Ananda being the root nature. In one way

> or another, we seek this Ananda or Love. It powerfully

> affects us as human beings.

>

> I remember being at a retreat over 20 years ago and

> talking to this woman in her 60s. She was divorced and

> actively looking for a man.

>

> I advised her to forget about men and finding love and

> all that and focus on meditation and Self-Realization

> and be free. I remember the pained look on her face

> and she said, " But I really need to have a man in my

> life."

>

> I should have apologized to her right away for

> suggesting that she forget about finding love.

>

> I was such a fool then.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

>

>

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, Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote:

> We know the world through the mind. Sri Ramana used to

> say that mind is a wonderful power that arises from

> the Self and makes all this visible.

>

> The conscious mind is one manifestation of Kundalini

> Shakti. Ultimately, Mind, Kundalini, Shakti, Maya, all

> these mean the same thing.

>

> Jnana makes us aware that the rising of (Mind, Maya,

> Shakti)has a Source which is complete in It Self, the

> pure Sat-Chit-Ananda.

>

> It is because of the presence of Sat-Chit-Ananda at

> the core of our being, the whole world is starving for

> love, love or Ananda (joy or bliss) being the root

> nature. In one way or another, we seek this Ananda,

> either through material means or spiritual means which

> are also in a way not different than material means.

>

> I remember being at retreat about 23 years ago and

> talking to this woman in her 60s. She was divorced and

> actively looking for a man.

>

> I advised her to forget about finding love and all

> that nonsense and focus on meditation and

> Self-Realization and be free. I remember the pained

> look on her face and she said, "But I really need to

> have a man in my life."

>

> I was such a fool then.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

Namaste Harsha and all,

 

Yes if the lady was ready for a sannyasin's life she wouldn't have

said what she did. All in its own time. For some it is a need to

complement the separation of the sexes. If her karma was different it

wouldn't drive her in that direction so.

 

Sat-chit-ananda-Saguna Brahman. Yes there is only one mind the

Mahat, etc. The Saguna/Sakti/May-- projects it, and we have a local

consciousness in it, like whirlpools in the ocean.....Om

Sakti..Saktidass.

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