Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 I second every word of what Eric says here. Besides, we are guests on this list. You do not bite the hand that feeds you - if you are a dog, that is. With humans, one cannot be so sure. Michael -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com [ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com]Gesendet: Saturday, February 02, 2002 20:41An: Betreff: Re: What this list is FuhrerI rarely defend a position or point of view, but Gloria is my pal and a wise being, as is my friend Harsha, so bug off! with love eric. At 23:36 01/02/02 +0000, you wrote:>Not sure anyone else cares JB. Listen to Gloria. This list is not for>discussing problems people are having with other lists or their list owners.>Thanks>HarshaI care.I care where Harsha is unableand never listen to Gloriawho never says anything worthwhile.This list IS for discussing problemsand if not then it is no sangha.If Jb is concerned he should be ignoredand exposed for the gross egotistwe pretend we are not.And yesI am speaking for myselfLobster ego/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 , MikeSuesserott@t... wrote: > I second every word of what Eric says here. Besides, we are guests > on this list. You do not bite the hand that feeds you - if you are > a dog, that is. Dogs do it sometimes, despite the dictate "you do not bite the hand that feeds you." Humans usually put up with the inconvenience, as we love our dogs unconditionally. > With humans, one cannot be so sure. Yes, so do humans -- but with a double standard: We don't put up with it, with human beings. We treat our dogs better. Peace, love and all those other words, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 Hm Lobster ego... didn't you go and form your own list with Jerry K and Mystress Angelique once upon a time ? Aren't you too busy with that and running your own sangha to be overly concerned with how other ppl run their lists ? I once left the British Libray b/c looked like a vagrant (had been backpacking) and felt out of place. But no one said anything to me b/c they were too courteous or figured I needed a place to warm up. Sometimes it's good to take a hint even if one isn't a vagrant but just looks like one. Hint, hint. Amanda. , Ed <edjason@b...> wrote: > I care. > I care where Harsha is unable > and never listen to Gloria > who never says anything worthwhile. > This list IS for discussing problems > and if not then it is no sangha. > If Jb is concerned he should be ignored > and exposed for the gross egotist > we pretend we are not. > > And yes > I am speaking for myself > > Lobster ego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 On 2/3/02 at 12:37 AM fewtch wrote: º, MikeSuesserott@t... wrote: º> I second every word of what Eric says here. Besides, we are guests º> on this list. You do not bite the hand that feeds you - if you are º> a dog, that is. º ºDogs do it sometimes, despite the dictate "you do not bite the hand ºthat feeds you." Humans usually put up with the inconvenience, as we ºlove our dogs unconditionally. In this part of the world, dogs are the underdogs and often abandoned and abused. Strictly speaking, dogs aren't loved but the response a furry animal can evoke is interpreted as love. º º> With humans, one cannot be so sure. º ºYes, so do humans -- but with a double standard: We don't put up with ºit, with human beings. We treat our dogs better. No double standard at all: humans are 'pleasure animals'. The pursuit of sense gratification, when seen as man's guiding principle, enables a 'view' that from another perspective looks like 'prophesy'. º ºPeace, love and all those other words, Yes, mere words. "peace" is "secured" by weaponry of increasing sophistication, and regarding "love", no eunuch ever wrote a love poem, whether on a stone, a pet, a human or God. Another pointer not to separate 'spiritual' from 'material'. But experiencing that "personally" will be an unforgettable lesson, especially when it comes late. Jan º ºTim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 , "jb" <janb@a...> wrote: > No double standard at all: humans are 'pleasure animals'. The > pursuit of sense gratification, when seen as man's guiding > principle, enables a 'view' that from another perspective looks > like 'prophesy'. Pursuit of sense-gratification and avoidance of suffering is the same 'activity' -- thus can be approached from either perspective. The only 'reason' humans could be classified as 'pleasure animals' lies with society and culture -- the responses of an oversized brain, especially the areas related to conceptual thinking. That brain area is so large, that simply reading something like "you fool!" can evoke a strong emotional response. Not a trait pointing toward long term survival of a species. > Another pointer not to separate 'spiritual' from 'material'. A wise pointer, but will be predictably ignored or misinterpreted by many. Religions (and science!) have been conditioning to separate "material" and "spiritual" for centuries, at least in the West. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 Dear Amanda, I'm just glad lobsters have thick skins. LOL! Others seem to have rather vulnerable thin ones! Love, Hillary , "mumblecat2000" <mumblecat@a...> wrote: > > > Hm Lobster ego... didn't you go and form your own list with Jerry K > and Mystress Angelique once upon a time ? Aren't you too busy with > that and running your own sangha to be overly concerned with how > other ppl run their lists ? > > I once left the British Libray b/c looked like a vagrant (had been > backpacking) and felt out of place. But no one said anything to me > b/c they were too courteous or figured I needed a place to warm up. > Sometimes it's good to take a hint even if one isn't a vagrant but > just looks like one. > > > Hint, hint. > > > Amanda. > > > > > , Ed <edjason@b...> wrote: > > > I care. > > I care where Harsha is unable > > and never listen to Gloria > > who never says anything worthwhile. > > This list IS for discussing problems > > and if not then it is no sangha. > > If Jb is concerned he should be ignored > > and exposed for the gross egotist > > we pretend we are not. > > > > And yes > > I am speaking for myself > > > > Lobster ego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 , "hdruout" <druout@a...> wrote: > Dear Amanda, > > I'm just glad lobsters have thick skins. LOL! Others seem to have > rather vulnerable thin ones! Hello DruOut, An animal with a thin skin is easily flayed and eaten as opposed to a hard shelled animal which needs to be cracked first before it can be consumed. Skin and especially furless skin, burns well and quickly and leaves little but dust when finished. It's not always a bad thing to have thin skin. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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