BHAGAVAD GITA -That which possesses the bodyis eternal.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dharma,

 

It is good to see you back here, but I am so sorry to hear what you are

experiencing. I do know how you feel--how to hold that higher awareness

'constantly, during all the hours' as you say, that is a difficult one indeed.

You know I think that I have had CFS for 13 years, at one time quite

debilitating, and now reduced to a few symptomatic days a month. I know the

experience of spending all conscious time in pain, with no solution in sight.

It is an incredible challenge to keep one's mind on the knife's edge, holding

faith and higher awareness in the midst of pain. I don't think I have any

advice or answers for you, as I know you think of this all day, every day, and

have tried many things. I only want to say that my thoughts are with you in

this. Please feel free to call or email any time to talk about this. I have

found support, a listening other in the midst of the greatest pain, to be the

most helpful thing.

 

There is a woman whose name I can't recall, who wrote the current NYTimes

bestseller, Seabiscuit. It is a story about a racehorse. Anyway, she has had

CFS for 14 years. She has been unable to leave her home and pretty much her bed

for a very long time, and unlike you and I has not seen a gradual improvement in

symptoms but instead a steady decrease in functioning. I have heard her

interviewed twice on NPR and she possesses a remarkable ability to speak with

detached strength about her debility and her efforts to make her good minutes or

hours creatively fruitful. She was an athelete, a rider, and very active and

engaged with the world when she suddenly became very ill with CFS after a bout

with the flu, or food poisoning, some simple thing. She is currently working on

a ook about her experiences with CFS. If you look up the Seabiscuit book then

you will find her name, and maybe there is something out already on her new

book.

 

All the best to you, Dharma. You are in my thoughts.

 

Jill

>>> deva 02/06/02 02:12 AM >>>

Hi Vicki,

>

>

> A serene spirit accepts pleasure and pain with an even mind ,

> and is unmoved by either. He alone is worthy of immortality.

>

These are helpful words for dealing with physical pain. The problem

I have now is somewhat different.

 

My illness that has returned (CFS/ME/fibromyalgia) causes emotions to

arise - sometimes fears, sometimes depression...

 

I know who I am, but I live in this body which creates these

emotions, and they aren't easy to deal with. I can only treat the

illness - and we know so little about it - and keep clearing

emotions. Myfriend points out that the opposite of fear is faith. I

do have complete faith that I am guided and watched over - always

have been. But it isn't easy to try to keep this in clear focus when

the body is throwing up more fear. I found your quotation from

Ramana very helpful:

 

Maharshi :

As one strives to know the "I" , attachments to objects

and degrading thoughts gradually drop away.

The more one does not forget the Self , the more

the elevating qualities can take root.

 

Holding the awareness of the highest does help, but how to do that

constantly during all the hours??

 

I'm writing about this because I think there may be others on the

list with the same problem.

 

Love,

Dharma

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill,

>

>

>It is good to see you back here, but I am so sorry to hear what you

>are experiencing. I do know how you feel--how to hold that higher

>awareness 'constantly, during all the hours' as you say, that is a

>difficult one indeed. You know I think that I have had CFS for 13

>years, at one time quite debilitating, and now reduced to a few

>symptomatic days a month. I know the experience of spending all

>conscious time in pain, with no solution in sight. It is an

>incredible challenge to keep one's mind on the knife's edge, holding

>faith and higher awareness in the midst of pain. I don't think I

>have any advice or answers for you, as I know you think of this all

>day, every day, and have tried many things. I only want to say that

>my thoughts are with you in this. Please feel free to call or email

>any time to talk about this. I have found support, a listening

>other in the midst of the greatest pain, to be the most helpful

>thing.

 

Thanks so much - I'll probably take you up on your offer!

>

>There is a woman whose name I can't recall, who wrote the current

>NYTimes bestseller, Seabiscuit. It is a story about a racehorse.

>Anyway, she has had CFS for 14 years. She has been unable to leave

>her home and pretty much her bed for a very long time, and unlike

>you and I has not seen a gradual improvement in symptoms but instead

>a steady decrease in functioning. I have heard her interviewed

>twice on NPR and she possesses a remarkable ability to speak with

>detached strength about her debility and er efforts to make her good

>minutes or hours creatively fruitful. She was an athelete, a rider,

>and very active and engaged with the world when she suddenly became

>very ill with CFS after a bout with the flu, or food poisoning, some

>simple thing. She is currently working on a ook about her

>experiences with CFS. If you look up the Seabiscuit book then you

>will find her name, and maybe there is something out already on her

>new book.

 

Thanks, I'll look.

>

>

>All the best to you, Dharma. You are in my thoughts.

 

 

I love you too.

Dharma

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to hear about your recent resurgence of CSF Dharma !

 

I hope you will be able to keep your faith if the CSF doesn't pass

you by in a short while, or that the question of faith becomes moot

during the time the CSF lasts.

 

I suspect everyone that manifests Kundalini at some point experience

phsyical and mental fatigue, lasting long or short and find that they

have to reduce involvement in the world while that is going on. I do

hope yours will pass soon.

 

 

Warm regards,

 

 

Amanda.

[Guest guest]

Hi Amanda,

>I'm sorry to hear about your recent resurgence of CSF Dharma !

>

>I hope you will be able to keep your faith if the CSF doesn't pass

>you by in a short while, or that the question of faith becomes moot

>during the time the CSF lasts.

 

Don't worry, I can't lose my faith! I have no faith in the sense of

believing in things not seen or known. I _know_, not believe.

Knowledge from experience can't be lost.

 

The faith I have is the kind of faith I had in my parents. All my

life I've been watched over and guided, and I have faith that it is

always true. Even if things seem bad, there is no doubt a purpose,

and it must fit into the plan for this life of mine. I trust in

what I know.

>

>

>I suspect everyone that manifests Kundalini at some point experience

>phsyical and mental fatigue, lasting long or short and find that they

>have to reduce involvement in the world while that is going on. I do

>hope yours will pass soon.

 

This isn't fatigue, it's a serious illness, etiology unknown as yet.

In Europe and Canada known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME).

 

Thanks for the love and concern - and thanks to everyone who answered

- I just couldn't answer everyone. But I love you all. Can't read

all the list, but I dip into it, and it's a great source of love and

comfort.

 

Love,

Dharma