Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Oh, I forgot - Walt Whitman and D.H. lawrence. and T.S. Eliot and Dylan Thomas, and the beloved Rumi. So many------ How could I forget? Unless we met in this space of our being crazy. Love thank you Mazie. And what about the Divine Hafiz? I am drunk in his tavern to. I love the way love does to please. The hafiz of me and you. Sleepy eric. Dear Friends, Narrowing down the titles to seven is as close I can come to listing the books that were instrumental in turning another corner for me and my sadhana. Strangley, these books aren't all spiritual, they just held a new view for me to see and then move on to another part of my life's lessons. They are these, not in order of importance either: 1) Rumi and Hafiz, numerous translations, mainly Barks and Ladinsky 2) Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger 3) The Bhagavad-Gita 4) Abandonment to Divine Providence by Jean Pierre de Cassaude 5) The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi 6) Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda 7) Fatu Hiva by Thor Heyerdahl I may as well mention that "The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" also was a wide-open window for me. And "Gitanjali" by "Leaves of Grass" by Walt Whitman Tagore. "Gulliver's Travels" or "The Three World's of Gulliver" were real adventures for me into exploration of seeing things from a larger view when I was a child. For some reason, the book called "The Tale of Genji" had a real effect on me. That makes eleven books I've mentioned so I might as well round it to an even dozen, the last mentioned being "Leaves of Grass" by Walt Whitman. Good old Walt spoke openly to my heart and it was definitely a favorite. So, there you have it. Love, Peace, Mazie /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dear Friends, Narrowing down the titles to seven is as close I can come to listing the books that were instrumental in turning another corner for me and my sadhana. Strangley, these books aren't all spiritual, they just held a new view for me to see and then move on to another part of my life's lessons. They are these, not in order of importance either: 1) Rumi and Hafiz, numerous translations, mainly Barks and Ladinsky 2) Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger 3) The Bhagavad-Gita 4) Abandonment to Divine Providence by Jean Pierre de Cassaude 5) The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi 6) Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda 7) Fatu Hiva by Thor Heyerdahl I may as well mention that "The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" also was a wide-open window for me. And "Gitanjali" by Rabindranath Tagore. "Gulliver's Travels" or "The Three World's of Gulliver" were real adventures for me into exploration of seeing things from a larger view when I was a child. For some reason, the book called "The Tale of Genji" had a real effect on me. That makes eleven books I've mentioned so I might as well round it to an even dozen, the last mentioned being "Leaves of Grass" by Walt Whitman. Good old Walt spoke openly to my heart and it was definitely a favorite. So, there you have it. Love, Peace, Mazie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Hi Mazie, Interesting list! What is Fatu Hiva by Thor Heyerdahl about? Love, --Greg At 11:47 PM 2/8/02 +0000, mazie_l wrote: >Dear Friends, > >Narrowing down the titles to seven is as close I can come to listing >the books that were instrumental in turning another corner for me and >my sadhana. Strangley, these books aren't all spiritual, they just >held a new view for me to see and then move on to another part of my >life's lessons. They are these, not in order of importance either: > >1) Rumi and Hafiz, numerous translations, mainly Barks and Ladinsky >2) Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger >3) The Bhagavad-Gita >4) Abandonment to Divine Providence by Jean Pierre de Cassaude >5) The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi >6) Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda >7) Fatu Hiva by Thor Heyerdahl > >I may as well mention that "The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" also was a >wide-open window for me. And "Gitanjali" by Rabindranath >Tagore. "Gulliver's Travels" or "The Three World's of Gulliver" were >real adventures for me into exploration of seeing things from a >larger view when I was a child. For some reason, the book called "The >Tale of Genji" had a real effect on me. That makes eleven books I've >mentioned so I might as well round it to an even dozen, the last >mentioned being "Leaves of Grass" by Walt Whitman. Good old Walt >spoke openly to my heart and it was definitely a favorite. So, there >you have it. > >Love, Peace, >Mazie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 , Gregory Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > Hi Mazie, > > Interesting list! What is Fatu Hiva by Thor Heyerdahl about? > > Love, > > --Greg Dear Greg, Fatu Hiva is Heyerdahl's account of how he and his young wife, Liv, chucked it all and left civilization. He was 22 and she 20 when they wanted to try an experiment if modern man could just go back to the basics and live like the islanders did so long before. They chose the Marquesas Islands, and this was in the mid to late thirties I believe that he did this. He was, as he put it, "the original hippie." They took nothing except the few specimen bottles to gather flora and fauna for study at a later date. They took no medicines, no food, no building supplies, nothing other than what they could carry in their hands. It's a really exciting read. Love, Peace, Mazie > > At 11:47 PM 2/8/02 +0000, mazie_l wrote: > >Dear Friends, > > > >Narrowing down the titles to seven is as close I can come to listing > >the books that were instrumental in turning another corner for me and > >my sadhana. Strangley, these books aren't all spiritual, they just > >held a new view for me to see and then move on to another part of my > >life's lessons. They are these, not in order of importance either: > > > >1) Rumi and Hafiz, numerous translations, mainly Barks and Ladinsky > >2) Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger > >3) The Bhagavad-Gita > >4) Abandonment to Divine Providence by Jean Pierre de Cassaude > >5) The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi > >6) Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda > >7) Fatu Hiva by Thor Heyerdahl > > > >I may as well mention that "The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" also was a > >wide-open window for me. And "Gitanjali" by Rabindranath > >Tagore. "Gulliver's Travels" or "The Three World's of Gulliver" were > >real adventures for me into exploration of seeing things from a > >larger view when I was a child. For some reason, the book called "The > >Tale of Genji" had a real effect on me. That makes eleven books I've > >mentioned so I might as well round it to an even dozen, the last > >mentioned being "Leaves of Grass" by Walt Whitman. Good old Walt > >spoke openly to my heart and it was definitely a favorite. So, there > >you have it. > > > >Love, Peace, > >Mazie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 , Gregory Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > The results of this deconstruction, the rippling effects, were no intellectual game. I really threw myself wholeheartedly into the whole enchilada. Stirnerism wasn't a process of acquiring new beliefs, but of beliefs being gleefully ridiculed and joyously left in the dust. It's like I was being deprogrammed to the cellular level. It didn't permit any other forms of intellectualized idealism to take root again in me! > For some, U.G. Krishnamurti has a similar effect :-). Peace, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 > > What have been books that have impacted you the most. I have enjoyed reading all your selections - here are some of mine: Autobiography of a Yogi - Yogananda I Am that - Nissargadatta Bhagavad Gita Beyond the Himalayas - M Macdonald Bayne Yoga of the Christ - M Macdonald Bayne Ponder on this - A Bailey (a compilation) Maitreyas Mission 1-3 - B Creme Man of Miracles (Sathya Sai Baba) - H Murphet Notebooks of Paul Brunton Bits & Bobs of Krishnurmuti Wow. Could include so many more - these come to mind though as having particular great impact Haven't read any Ramana fully yet, though i recently bought "Be as you are" Blessings Sai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Hi Greg, sorry for the late reply; I had been away from my desk. It was so interesting to read your post. In fact, I read it several times, to get a good feel for what seems to have been an important part of your philosophical evolution, and, as I will readily admit, also to compare your experiences with some past soul-searching that I had done in my own life. It seems to me that each one of us went through similar phases, but in a different order. In my younger years life seemed to me an experience very much deficient of true meaning, everything seemed to happen without rhyme or reason. I couldn't see any sense in religion or metaphysics which seemed contradictory and logically inconsistent. I read about God and Eternal Life but couldn't see any evidence of His interest in us in the tragic insecurity of our existence. I heard ministers preach about salvation, but they didn't look any "saved" to me. So I became very much disillusioned and sarcastic, and when I first read Stirner at the age of seventeen it didn't take this book for me to be deconstructed because I already was. But I kept looking for something that would satisfy my soul, reading everything I could lay my hands on, and finally read a book on sankhya philosophy which appealed to me in a way never felt before. Then I slowly became more acquainted with that great treasure trove of Indian philosophy which, to me, is unique in that it combines a philosophical system with a path towards actual experience of the things Divine. And as time went by I found myself "reconstructed" in this direction, so much so that I would not mind being called an "idealist" now. :-) It was also through the intermediary of sankhya philosophy that I finally gained a better understanding of my own Christian roots, and of other religions as well. Kindest regards, Michael > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: Gregory Goode [goode] > Gesendet: Friday, February 08, 2002 23:54 > An: ; > Betreff: Re: Re: The best books you have read > > > Hi Michael, > > You are the only person I recall who ever heard of Max Stirner, > not including a few academic colleagues! > > What Stirner's book did for me was to globally deconstruct the > world of my youthful idealism. I had formed a very tight > philosophy, which took years to build up, through my teens and > early 20's. I saw the world as a systematic unity, where logic, > metaphysics, ethics, political truths were totally coherent. But > Stirner helped explode that to fragments. And I can tell you, > once a person experiences one global deconstruction, the other > kinds (Structuralism, Behaviorism, Advaita, etc.) are merely > different flavors. It is thought that Nietzcshe read Stirner in > school. Stirner said "God is dead" about 40 years before Nietzsche. > > Before reading Stirner's unique book in the early 70's, I was a > true believer in the eternity of love, reason, and the rational > nature of man. I truly and deeply believed that Aristotelian > logic was the basis of the entire structure of the universe. I > believed that mysticism and religion and emotion were harmful > irratio and led to the worst horrors in the world. In short, I > was an Objectivist, a Randian, a follower of Ayn Rand and > Nathaniel Branden. > > I was married to a fellow Objectivist. We divorced, which > according to Objectivism is never supposed to happen when both > people value reason above all else. I was devastated, horrified, > depressed, and alone. > > So I re-examined all the philosophies I had digested. I saw some > logical flaws in Rand, inconsistent with her own premises. > Later, from reading various texts on Libertarianism and political > philosophy, I came across a reference to Stirner. I ordered and > read the book and was amazed. Taking a few basic things for > granted (e.g., a subjective center of experience), he > deconstructed everything else in a way, as you know, has never > been done before or since. > > The results of this deconstruction, the rippling effects, were no > intellectual game. I really threw myself wholeheartedly into the > whole enchilada. Stirnerism wasn't a process of acquiring new > beliefs, but of beliefs being gleefully ridiculed and joyously > left in the dust. It's like I was being deprogrammed to the > cellular level. It didn't permit any other forms of > intellectualized idealism to take root again in me! > > During grad school in Philosophy, about 12 years after I first > read Stirner, I spent a year at the Universitaet zu Koeln > studying him and other things. > > There were other chapters after that, but that's why I liked his book! > > Love, > > --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.