Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 font-family:Arial;color:black">Being Is Freedom. Desire is desire, love is love, hatred is hatred, anger is anger, sadness is sadness, rage is rage, and bliss is bliss. What of it? There is no mystery here. If you truly accept the totality of what is, then where is the need to improve yourself. But you should improve yourself, if you feel you have to. Don't go against your natural feeling. It just creates additional conflicts. In the long run, forget about overcoming your conditioning. That itself is another type of conditioning. Just layer upon layer upon layers of conditioning constitute our identity. You may as well become an enormous and huge Chocolate Cake at a wedding! You will have fewer layers to contend with and you will taste better to your friends! There is no end to this nonsense about self-improvement and if you have the energy to pursue, it will continue in one form or another. Forget permanent and impermanent. Forget freedom and bondage. Forget Samsara and Moksha. Remain as you are. That is actually the only thing anyone can do really well. font-family:Arial;color:black">You don’t need lessons! If you know in your bones that there is absolutely nothing you can do, you will See that there is absolutely nothing you need to do! To See Is To Be. To Be is to See. These are Not Two! If you love Truth enough, you will see that You are the Truth! You and Truth. These are not Two! If you Love Truth enough, you will see that You are Love! You and Love. These are not Two! Keep it in sight You will be all right! Be Seeing You (:-). Lots of love Harsha 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-color-alt: windowtext"> 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" /join 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Nicely put, Harsha. There is no distance between myself and who I am. With self-improvement, there is distance I make between myself and who I want to be. Releasing the image that I want to be, and how the world should be, there is only "This" -- as is. And "This" is no object, has no objects. There is always some distance between myself and any object, or myself and another. Between myself and "This" is no distance at all. And "This" is all that is. Love, Dan , "Harsha" wrote: > Being Is Freedom. > > Desire is desire, love is love, hatred is hatred, anger is anger, sadness is sadness, rage is rage, and bliss is bliss. What of it? > > There is no mystery here. If you truly accept the totality of what is, then where is the need to improve yourself. > > But you should improve yourself, if you feel you have to. Don't go against your natural feeling. It just creates additional conflicts. > > In the long run, forget about overcoming your conditioning. That itself is another type of conditioning. Just layer upon layer upon layers of conditioning constitute our identity. You may as well become an enormous and huge Chocolate Cake at a wedding! You will have fewer layers to contend with and you will taste better to your friends! > > There is no end to this nonsense about self-improvement and if you have the energy to pursue, it will continue in one form or another. > > Forget permanent and impermanent. Forget freedom and bondage. Forget Samsara and Moksha. Remain as you are. That is actually the only thing anyone can do really well. > You donâ??t need lessons! > > If you know in your bones that there is absolutely nothing you can do, you will See that there is absolutely nothing you need to do! > > To See Is To Be. To Be is to See. > > These are Not Two! > > If you love Truth enough, you will see that You are the Truth! > > You and Truth. > > These are not Two! > > If you Love Truth enough, you will see that You are Love! > > You and Love. > > These are not Two! > > Keep it in sight > You will be all right! > > Be Seeing You (:-). > > Lots of love > Harsha > > /join > > > > > > Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 I love you brother Dan. Harsha dan330033 [dan330033] Monday, March 04, 2002 9:22 AM Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom Nicely put, Harsha. There is no distance between myself and who I am. With self-improvement, there is distance I make between myself and who I want to be. Releasing the image that I want to be, and how the world should be, there is only "This" -- as is. And "This" is no object, has no objects. There is always some distance between myself and any object, or myself and another. Between myself and "This" is no distance at all. And "This" is all that is. Love, Dan , "Harsha" wrote: > Being Is Freedom. > > Desire is desire, love is love, hatred is hatred, anger is anger, sadness is sadness, rage is rage, and bliss is bliss. What of it? > > There is no mystery here. If you truly accept the totality of what is, then where is the need to improve yourself. > > But you should improve yourself, if you feel you have to. Don't go against your natural feeling. It just creates additional conflicts. > > In the long run, forget about overcoming your conditioning. That itself is another type of conditioning. Just layer upon layer upon layers of conditioning constitute our identity. You may as well become an enormous and huge Chocolate Cake at a wedding! You will have fewer layers to contend with and you will taste better to your friends! > > There is no end to this nonsense about self-improvement and if you have the energy to pursue, it will continue in one form or another. > > Forget permanent and impermanent. Forget freedom and bondage. Forget Samsara and Moksha. Remain as you are. That is actually the only thing anyone can do really well. > You donâ??t need lessons! > > If you know in your bones that there is absolutely nothing you can do, you will See that there is absolutely nothing you need to do! > > To See Is To Be. To Be is to See. > > These are Not Two! > > If you love Truth enough, you will see that You are the Truth! > > You and Truth. > > These are not Two! > > If you Love Truth enough, you will see that You are Love! > > You and Love. > > These are not Two! > > Keep it in sight > You will be all right! > > Be Seeing You (:-). > > Lots of love > Harsha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 > I love you brother Dan. > > Harsha What's not to love? :-) Love you, too, my friend Harsha! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Hi Dan and Harsha, Dan wrote: There is no distance between myself and who I am. E: Any distance that appears between myself and I is only apparent and non-separative. D: With self-improvement, there is distance I make between myself and who I want to be. E: Any self-improvement that may appear is likewise only apparent. D: Releasing the image that I want to be, and how the world should be, there is only "This" -- as is. E: The image of self or the world being other than it is, is also apparent. Nothing that is apparent seems separate from self or "what is," yet what is the naure of this "apparency" that seems neither object nor subject, yet different than both? Is it simply an apparent difference? Ed...apparently? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > Nothing that is apparent seems separate > from self or "what is," yet what is the > naure of this "apparency" that seems neither > object nor subject, yet different than both? > > Is it simply an apparent difference? > > Ed...apparently? :-) Hi Ed, It doesn't have any nature of its own. There isn't someone there to measure any difference, until there are measurements for a someone. How long do you like your coat? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 > Nothing that is apparent seems separate > from self or "what is," yet what is the > naure of this "apparency" that seems neither > object nor subject, yet different than both? > > Is it simply an apparent difference? > > Ed...apparently? :-) Hi Ed, D: It doesn't have any nature of its own. E: Yes, just simply appearance as is. No returns, no refunds. D: There isn't someone there to measure any difference, until there are measurements for a someone. E: Yes, a someone nothing more than appearance. On sale today only. D: How long do you like your coat? E:Just long enough to keep me warm on a cold, blistery day on the way to your house for a cup of tea. Ed A lady harasses her daughter into seeing a psychologist for her abberant behavior. Finally the daughter gives in and tells the psychologist, "there's absolutly nothing wrong with me." The psychologist asks, "then why did your mother insist on your seeing me." She replied, "because I like pancakes." "I love pancakes, too" said the psychologist with excitement. "Great," she says , "come over to my house...I've got closets full of them." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Reminds me of Nikolai Gogol's charming and well-written DIARY OF A MADMAN! At 05:00 AM 3/7/02 -0000, stillpointed wrote: > >A lady harasses her daughter into seeing a psychologist for her >abberant behavior. Finally the daughter gives in and tells the >psychologist, "there's absolutly nothing wrong with me." The >psychologist asks, "then why did your mother insist on your seeing >me." She replied, "because I like pancakes." >"I love pancakes, too" said the psychologist with excitement. >"Great," she says , "come over to my house...I've got closets >full of them." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 On 3/7/02 at 5:00 AM stillpointed wrote: [...] º ºA lady harasses her daughter into seeing a psychologist for her ºabberant behavior. Finally the daughter gives in and tells the ºpsychologist, "there's absolutly nothing wrong with me." The ºpsychologist asks, "then why did your mother insist on your seeing ºme." She replied, "because I like pancakes." º"I love pancakes, too" said the psychologist with excitement. º"Great," she says , "come over to my house...I've got closets ºfull of them." Thanks for the laugh: the joke is a great example of the implicit normativeness imposed by society. The lady is just a pancake collector, which isn't much different from a collector of stamps, prehistoric skeletons or printed quotes... Which would probably make me a dirt & dust collector Ambiguously, Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 > D: > How long do you like your coat? > > > E:Just long enough to keep me warm on a cold, blistery day on > the way to your house for a cup of tea. D: Warmly, inside and out ... By the way, when a pancake comes out of the closet, is it happier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 > Thu, 07 Mar 2002 14:27:57 +0000 > "ecirada" <janb > Re: Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom > > On 3/7/02 at 5:00 AM stillpointed wrote: > > [...] > º > ºA lady harasses her daughter into seeing a psychologist for her > ºabberant behavior. Finally the daughter gives in and tells the > ºpsychologist, "there's absolutly nothing wrong with me." The > ºpsychologist asks, "then why did your mother insist on your seeing > ºme." She replied, "because I like pancakes." > º"I love pancakes, too" said the psychologist with excitement. > º"Great," she says , "come over to my house...I've got closets > ºfull of them." > > Thanks for the laugh: the joke is a great example of the implicit > normativeness imposed by society. The lady is just a pancake > collector, which isn't much different from a collector of stamps, > prehistoric skeletons or printed quotes... > Which would probably make me a dirt & dust collector > > Ambiguously, > > Jan i collect nondualia. it's the international house of pancakes. Every day people ask for something from the closet. I hop to it and find what they want. jerry http://nonduality.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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