Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Dear Harsha, this post is sublime wisdom. You are a sublime teaching. Perfect words said from the heart of perfection. I salute you dear Harsha, I bow to your Buddha nature. I see you. your most unworthy brother eric Being Is Freedom. Desire is desire, love is love, hatred is hatred, anger is anger, sadness is sadness, rage is rage, and bliss is bliss. What of it? There is no mystery here. If you truly accept the totality of what is, then where is the need to improve yourself. But you should improve yourself, if you feel you have to. Don't go against your natural feeling. It just creates additional conflicts. In the long run, forget about overcoming your conditioning. That itself is another type of conditioning. Just layer upon layer upon layers of conditioning constitute our identity. You may as well become an enormous and huge Chocolate Cake at a wedding! You will have fewer layers to contend with and you will taste better to your friends! There is no end to this nonsense about self-improvement and if you have the energy to pursue, it will continue in one form or another. Forget permanent and impermanent. Forget freedom and bondage. Forget Samsara and Moksha. Remain as you are. That is actually the only thing anyone can do really well. You don’t need lessons! If you know in your bones that there is absolutely nothing you can do, you will See that there is absolutely nothing you need to do! To See Is To Be. To Be is to See. These are Not Two! If you love Truth enough, you will see that You are the Truth! You and Truth. These are not Two! If you Love Truth enough, you will see that You are Love! You and Love. These are not Two! Keep it in sight You will be all right! Be Seeing You (:-). Lots of love Harsha /join /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Dear Harsha, my brother and soul traveller, do not fret about my own limitations. I am worthy of love, and happy to connect with you as two in One. I love you, and send my being to you as a loving blessing. To day, I have been told that I must submit to major surgery for a chronic health problem. I rejoice in that, and look forward to perfect well being. My operation is in two weeks time, and I am anticipating a full recovery! Until then I will keep singing my songs and sharing with your forum. I am a happy soul, and send you my dearest wishes to your family and friends, and all on this list. Yes, when all the talking is done - Love is all. Love to you and your family, and to all on this satsangh. God Bless eric Dearest Eric, Thank you as always for your warmth, support, and goodness. I consider it my privilege and good fortune to know someone like you. It seems to me that other than showing love, there is nothing else to show; other than talk about love, there is nothing else to talk about; other than to listen to tales of love, there is nothing else to listen to, and other than shed tears for love, there is nothing else to cry about. Therefore, since love is the center of our life, we have all embraced each other. It hurts me a little when you sign “your most unworthy brotherâ€. But I don’t know what to do about that hurt. Lots of love my most worthy brother Love Harsha ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com [ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com] Monday, March 04, 2002 4:34 AM Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom-reply Dear Harsha, this post is sublime wisdom. You are a sublime teaching. Perfect words said from the heart of perfection. I salute you dear Harsha, I bow to your Buddha nature. I see you. your most unworthy brother eric Being Is Freedom. Desire is desire, love is love, hatred is hatred, anger is anger, sadness is sadness, rage is rage, and bliss is bliss. What of it? There is no mystery here. If you truly accept the totality of what is, then where is the need to improve yourself. But you should improve yourself, if you feel you have to. Don't go against your natural feeling. It just creates additional conflicts. In the long run, forget about overcoming your conditioning. That itself is another type of conditioning. Just layer upon layer upon layers of conditioning constitute our identity. You may as well become an enormous and huge Chocolate Cake at a wedding! You will have fewer layers to contend with and you will taste better to your friends! There is no end to this nonsense about self-improvement and if you have the energy to pursue, it will continue in one form or another. Forget permanent and impermanent. Forget freedom and bondage. Forget Samsara and Moksha. Remain as you are. That is actually the only thing anyone can do really well. You don’t need lessons! If you know in your bones that there is absolutely nothing you can do, you will See that there is absolutely nothing you need to do! To See Is To Be. To Be is to See. These are Not Two! If you love Truth enough, you will see that You are the Truth! You and Truth. These are not Two! If you Love Truth enough, you will see that You are Love! You and Love. These are not Two! Keep it in sight You will be all right! Be Seeing You (:-). Lots of love Harsha /join /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Dearest Eric, Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Thank you as always for your warmth, support, and goodness. I consider it my privilege and good fortune to know someone like you. yes"> It seems to me that other than showing love, there is nothing else to show; other than talk about love, there is nothing else to talk about; other than to listen to tales of love, there is nothing else to listen to, and other than shed tears for love, there is nothing else to cry about. Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Therefore, since love is the center of our life, we have all embraced each other. Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">It hurts me a little when you sign “your most unworthy brotherâ€. Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">But I don’t know what to do about that hurt. Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Lots of love my most worthy brother Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Love Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Harsha -----Original Message----- ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com [ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com] Monday, March 04, 2002 4:34 AM Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom-reply Dear Harsha, background:white"> this post is sublime wisdom. You are a sublime teaching. Perfect words said from the heart of perfection. I salute you dear Harsha, I bow to your Buddha nature. I see you. your most unworthy brother eric margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> background:white"> Being Is Freedom. Desire is desire, love is love, hatred is hatred, anger is anger, sadness is sadness, rage is rage, and bliss is bliss. What of it? There is no mystery here. If you truly accept the totality of what is, then where is the need to improve yourself. But you should improve yourself, if you feel you have to. Don't go against your natural feeling. It just creates additional conflicts. In the long run, forget about overcoming your conditioning. That itself is another type of conditioning. Just layer upon layer upon layers of conditioning constitute our identity. You may as well become an enormous and huge Chocolate Cake at a wedding! You will have fewer layers to contend with and you will taste better to your friends! There is no end to this nonsense about self-improvement and if you have the energy to pursue, it will continue in one form or another. Forget permanent and impermanent. Forget freedom and bondage. Forget Samsara and Moksha. Remain as you are. That is actually the only thing anyone can do really well. You don’t need lessons! If you know in your bones that there is absolutely nothing you can do, you will See that there is absolutely nothing you need to do! To See Is To Be. To Be is to See. These are Not Two! If you love Truth enough, you will see that You are the Truth! You and Truth. These are not Two! If you Love Truth enough, you will see that You are Love! You and Love. These are not Two! Keep it in sight You will be all right! Be Seeing You (:-). Lots of love Harsha /join color:black;background:white"> Magazine and Website is at color:black;background:white"> font-weight:bold"> Sponsor background:white"> color:black;background:white"> /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. background:white"> color:black"> font-family:Arial;color:black"> color:black">/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. color:black"> color:black"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 color:black"> ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com [ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com] Monday, March 04, 2002 12:16 PM Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom-reply white">Dear Harsha, my brother and soul traveller, do not fret about my own limitations. I am worthy of love, and happy to connect with you as two in One. I love you, and send my being to you as a loving blessing. To day, I have been told that I must submit to major surgery for a chronic health problem. I rejoice in that, and look forward to perfect well being. My operation is in two weeks time, and I am anticipating a full recovery! Until then I will keep singing my songs and sharing with your forum. I am a happy soul, and send you my dearest wishes to your family and friends, and all on this list. Yes, when all the talking is done - Love is all. Love to you and your family, and to all on this satsangh. God Bless eric font-weight:bold">Thanks for your wonderful note dear Eric. Your writing and poetry is superb. My best wishes to you for your health. We will have you in our thoughts. We will be with you in the operating room. white;font-weight:bold"> white;font-weight:bold">Lots of love white;font-weight:bold">Harsha  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Best wishes Eric! Our thoughts are with you. Thanks for bringing such nice thoughts and writing to this forum!! May you return stronger, healthier, and with more poetry! You will be singing in the hospital too, I know! Love, --Greg At 06:07 PM 3/5/02 -0500, Harsha wrote: >>>> ErcAshfrd [ErcAshfrd] Monday, March 04, 2002 12:16 PM Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom-reply Dear Harsha, my brother and soul traveller, do not fret about my own limitations. I am worthy of love, and happy to connect with you as two in One. I love you, and send my being to you as a loving blessing. To day, I have been told that I must submit to major surgery for a chronic health problem. I rejoice in that, and look forward to perfect well being. My operation is in two weeks time, and I am anticipating a full recovery! Until then I will keep singing my songs and sharing with your forum. I am a happy soul, and send you my dearest wishes to your family and friends, and all on this list. Yes, when all the talking is done - Love is all. Love to you and your family, and to all on this satsangh. God Bless eric Thanks for your wonderful note dear Eric. Your writing and poetry is superb. My best wishes to you for your health. We will have you in our thoughts. We will be with you in the operating room. Lots of love Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Thanks brother Greg, won't be going into Hospital till the 20th, so will keep writing til then. I like to babble along. I am in good shape for the shape I'm in. love eric. Best wishes Eric! Our thoughts are with you. Thanks for bringing such nice thoughts and writing to this forum!! May you return stronger, healthier, and with more poetry! You will be singing in the hospital too, I know! Love, --Greg At 06:07 PM 3/5/02 -0500, Harsha wrote: >>>> ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com [ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com] Monday, March 04, 2002 12:16 PM Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom-reply Dear Harsha, my brother and soul traveller, do not fret about my own limitations. I am worthy of love, and happy to connect with you as two in One. I love you, and send my being to you as a loving blessing. To day, I have been told that I must submit to major surgery for a chronic health problem. I rejoice in that, and look forward to perfect well being. My operation is in two weeks time, and I am anticipating a full recovery! Until then I will keep singing my songs and sharing with your forum. I am a happy soul, and send you my dearest wishes to your family and friends, and all on this list. Yes, when all the talking is done - Love is all. Love to you and your family, and to all on this satsangh. God Bless eric Thanks for your wonderful note dear Eric. Your writing and poetry is superb. My best wishes to you for your health. We will have you in our thoughts. We will be with you in the operating room. Lots of love Harsha ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> Access Your PC from Anywhere It's Easy. It's Fast. - Free Download Click Here! ---~-> /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Several times i came across stories regarding disease and how Love can act as a healing force. There have been instances where a fragile body that otherwise would have succumbed, kept alive by the force of Love only. One such instance was Kalu rinpoche, a Tibetan lama, said to have kept the body alive so long, just to benefit seekers. Another instance was a Rosicrucian who under 'normal' circumstances would have died in youth. So as a figure of of speech, you're in the best hands, irrespective the doc Love, Jan On 3/6/02 at 7:40 PM ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Thanks brother Greg,won't be going into Hospital till the 20th, so will keep writing til then.I like to babble along.I am in good shape for the shape I'm in.loveeric. Best wishes Eric! Our thoughts are with you. Thanks for bringing such nice thoughts and writing to this forum!! May you return stronger, healthier, and with more poetry! You will be singing in the hospital too, I know!Love,--GregAt 06:07 PM 3/5/02 -0500, Harsha wrote: >>>>ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com [ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com]Monday, March 04, 2002 12:16 PMTo: Subject: Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom-replyDear Harsha, my brother and soul traveller, do not fret about my own limitations.I am worthy of love, and happy to connect with you as two in One.I love you, and send my being to you as a loving blessing.To day, I have been told that I must submit to major surgery for a chronic health problem. I rejoice in that, and look forward to perfect well being. My operation is in two weeks time, and I am anticipating a full recovery! Until then I will keep singing my songs and sharing with your forum.I am a happy soul, and send you my dearest wishes to your family and friends,and all on this list.Yes, when all the talking is done - Love is all.Love to you and your family, and to all on this satsangh.God Blesseric Thanks for your wonderful note dear Eric. Your writing and poetry is superb. My best wishes to you for your health. We will have you in our thoughts. We will be with you in the operating room.Lots of loveHarsha------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Access Your PC from AnywhereIt's Easy. It's Fast. - Free DownloadClick Here!---~->/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Thanks for this wisdom Jan, the hands of love are tender indeed. There is no suffering only acceptance and a passing into understanding. All is recreated in love, and I have no fears at all. love eric Several times i came across stories regarding disease and how Love can act as a healing force. There have been instances where a fragile body that otherwise would have succumbed, kept alive by the force of Love only. One such instance was Kalu rinpoche, a Tibetan lama, said to have kept the body alive so long, just to benefit seekers. Another instance was a Rosicrucian who under 'normal' circumstances would have died in youth. So as a figure of of speech, you're in the best hands, irrespective the doc Love, Jan On 3/6/02 at 7:40 PM ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Thanks brother Greg, won't be going into Hospital till the 20th, so will keep writing til then. I like to babble along. I am in good shape for the shape I'm in. love eric. Best wishes Eric! Our thoughts are with you. Thanks for bringing such nice thoughts and writing to this forum!! May you return stronger, healthier, and with more poetry! You will be singing in the hospital too, I know! Love, --Greg At 06:07 PM 3/5/02 -0500, Harsha wrote: >>>> ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com [ErcAshfrd (AT) aol (DOT) com] Monday, March 04, 2002 12:16 PM Re: Love, Knowledge and Freedom-reply Dear Harsha, my brother and soul traveller, do not fret about my own limitations. I am worthy of love, and happy to connect with you as two in One. I love you, and send my being to you as a loving blessing. To day, I have been told that I must submit to major surgery for a chronic health problem. I rejoice in that, and look forward to perfect well being. My operation is in two weeks time, and I am anticipating a full recovery! Until then I will keep singing my songs and sharing with your forum. I am a happy soul, and send you my dearest wishes to your family and friends, and all on this list. Yes, when all the talking is done - Love is all. Love to you and your family, and to all on this satsangh. God Bless eric Thanks for your wonderful note dear Eric. Your writing and poetry is superb. My best wishes to you for your health. We will have you in our thoughts. We will be with you in the operating room. Lots of love Harsha ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> Access Your PC from Anywhere It's Easy. It's Fast. - Free Download Click Here! ---~-> /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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