Consciousness during deep sleep.

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Harvey & Friends,

 

 

, "Harvey Schneider" <harvey_s@h...> wrote:

> Harsha wrote:

>

> "Memory can disappear in either sleep or Nirvikalpa Samadhi."

>

> I have heard that in sleep the sense of separateness disappears

into the absolute, which, according to this understanding, accounts

for the refreshment and renewal we experience on awakening from sleep.

>

> Question: What is the difference between sleep and Nirvikalpa

Samadhi.

>

> I have never had any memory of consciousness during sleep although

someone, probably on some list or other, reported training himself to

be aware during sleep. I'm not sure whether that is possible. Does

anyone have any knowledge or experience that would bear on this point?

 

 

Yes, I've experienced it a few times, not because I trained myself to

do it, but rather as an experience "given" by the Shakti. I thought

of it at the time as something shown simply to learn about. It was

somewhat like a energized but calm meditation without explicit

content, the brain as if frozen, the visuals a granular formless

energy display.

 

Sleeping is usually not one of the things that the Shakti helps me

do, as a general rule. More often than not, I would just like to turn

it off and relax, but that is more easily said than accomplished.

Sound sleep itself is a kind of "Grace" within my experience of

Shakti, and one only rarely given.

 

Not trying to bring you down, still, this is how I find it.

 

yours in the bonds,

eric

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> > I have never had any memory of consciousness during sleep

although

> someone, probably on some list or other, reported training himself

to

> be aware during sleep. I'm not sure whether that is possible.

Does

> anyone have any knowledge or experience that would bear on this

point?

>

 

Hi Harvey,

 

 

Becoming aware that you're dreaming while you're dreaming, ie

becoming lucid while dreaming, is one way of being conscious while

you sleep, but from my experience, the thought processes that are

going on in lucid dreaming are about the same as how they are in

waking life, ie there is identification with the thoughts, emotions

and the body.

 

In doing witnessing exercises, it's also possible to witness REM and

the disjointed, baroque thoughts of dreams start up and remain

floating just under the surface of sleep, but as soon as the witness

tires, sleep and unawareness engulfs the mind.

 

When consciousness has become aware of itself and become used to

watch itself instead of the thoughts, this awareness is conscious of

itself also in sleep while dreaming, the dreams flitting on the

surface of the base consciousness the same way that thoughts are

present in the waking state, and being different from both dreaming

and waking.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.