Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Dear Amanda, as you are probably aware, of the several stages of samadhi that exist according to the scriptures, the first stages are described as impermanent. The devotee is liable to fall back to ordinary consciousness as long as these states have not been made one's own by deeper and prolonged meditation. I agree that the joys of the mind are not lasting. When the mind is being entertained, as it is in listening to music, reading poetry, hearing a joke, enjoying philosophical argument - when these temporary mental exhilarations take place, nothing of any permanence is gained. These experiences can be wonderful, but they are not lasting. However, there is a joy that is beyond the workings of the mind. The scriptures declare that sacred joy (ananda) to be one of the attributes of the Divine Self. We all can sometimes feel it, to the degree we are evolved spiritually. I am sure you must have experienced that also: You meditate, or pray, or go within, and all of a sudden your heart sings with joy, a tremendous inner happiness that arises for no particular reason at all. And you ask yourself, what is this - why am I so happy? "Silent rivers of divine joy cannot be seen with the eyes, but whenever you dig deeply through the outer layers of consciousness, you discover them." Warmly, Michael > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: mumblecat2000 [mumblecat] > Gesendet: Saturday, March 09, 2002 17:48 > An: > Betreff: Re: An experience of Samadhi > > > > > A beautiful story but I just have to comment.... > > Why did the great joy and bliss wear out after a while and only > returned when this person did some prescribed exercises instead? > > I would say that all joys of the mind are fleeting by their nature > while those not of the mind are lasting, by their nature. > > > Love, > > Amanda. > > > > > > > In the midst of his work, he would suddenly be freshly overwhelmed > by the > > goodness of God Who had given him this incredible, unspeakable > happiness. > > His breath would stop completely at such times; the awe which he > felt would > > be accompanied by an absolute stillness within and without. > Underlying all > > his consciousness was a sense of immeasurable and unutterable > gratitude; > > > > This state of illumination was present with the man for about two > months, > > and then gradually wore away. It has never returned with all its > pristine > > force, though certain features, especially the sense of divine > peace and > > joy, return whenever he practices the Yogoda meditation exercises. > > > > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, > sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and > exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves > rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from > Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come > and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart > Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A > true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, > spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to > a. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 > I am sure you must have experienced that also: You meditate, or pray, or go > within, and all of a sudden your heart sings with joy, a tremendous inner > happiness that arises for no particular reason at all. And you ask yourself, > what is this - why am I so happy? Heh heh, well Mike, at that point I'm usually not asking myself why I'm so happy, since happiness has a tendency to wane as well and will probably be replaced by something else later on. At that point I'm usually bored with meditation or prayer and oh wait, that's why I never do any of those things anyway, at least not in planning, because ah I don't want to set aside time for "spiritual things" and "not spiritual things" and I usually throw my hands up, giving up trying to find spiritualness in meditation and prayer. But that's me, I wanted something more lasting, so not searching for anything, worked best for me. Other things may work best for other ppl. I just give up. Love, Amanda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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