Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 Dear Eric, on rereading that story you might find that the visual experience of those pin-pricks of light is only a very minor side issue in Tara Mata's account. Many of us here who meditate have had, and are still having, experiences like this. As you are rightly saying, these are to be considered as no more than sign-posts. I cannot comment on your experiences, of course. But as far as Tara Mata was concerned, bear in mind that her account was written after only a few months with her Guru. She soon became irrevocably fixed in a very high state of consciousness. In fact, Paramahansa Yogananda said of her, "She was a great saint in a former life. I don't let her meditate much now, or else she would be in samadhi meditation all the time," and he added with a chuckle, "and she wouldn't get any work done!" It is true that visual experiences by and in themselves are not what the devotee is interested in. It is the contact, and ultimate unity, with the Divine that is the goal. And since according to the scriptures that Divine, in one of its aspects, is Joy Itself, it is but natural that in trying to approach the Divine we would feel some of that joy in ourselves. I can truthfully say that, in my small way, I have found this to be so. Just my $0.02. Michael > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: eblack101 [EBlackstead] > Gesendet: Sunday, March 10, 2002 18:49 > An: > Betreff: Open eyed Samadhi > > > Friends, > > I resonate to this experience because something like it was my own > for years, and a great deal of it persists to this day, notably: > > Everywhere he looked, he saw the "atom-dance" of nature; the air > was filled with myriad moving pin-pricks of light. > > This experience began for me in Baba Muktananda's Ashram in > Ganeshpuri, India. I was quite aware of it's shocking and impactive > effects, but was not misled into thinking it was Enlightenment. I > approached Baba and submitted my experience to him, and he > said "That's your state. that's your state. It will never change. It > will never change" and I was very encouraged. The foregoing isn't all > of our exchange, but it is all of it that is relevent to this > discussion. > > I can honestly say that Baba was right, it has proven to be my state > and the experience has neither gone away nor diminished, although > the initial display took place more than 20 years ago. The emotions > and blissful feelings that accompagnied such a magical transition > have diminished, and for long periods of time, disappeared, but the > visual display has never wavered. The writer of these experiences > quoted from Yagoda exercizes and you, the readers, should be under no > misapprehension, however, that these experiences constitute any kind > of definitive Enlightenment. they don't. and subsequent experiences > with Muktananda as well as face to face interviews with him have > confirmed this. > > Those of you familiar with Idries Shaw's The Sufis will know of the > distinction he draws between permanent states or levels and glimpses > or momentary experiences. The state in question can be either. For > the writer and student of Yagoda it was an extended experience; for > me it has proven to be a permanent level. Neither is more than a sign > post and a teaching experience. > > yours in the bonds, > eric > > > > > > , "mumblecat2000" <mumblecat@a...> wrote: > > > > > > > I am sure you must have experienced that also: You meditate, or > > pray, or go > > > within, and all of a sudden your heart sings with joy, a > tremendous > > inner > > > happiness that arises for no particular reason at all. And you > ask > > yourself, > > > what is this - why am I so happy? > > > > > > Heh heh, well Mike, at that point I'm usually not asking myself why > > I'm so happy, since happiness has a tendency to wane as well and > will > > probably be replaced by something else later on. At that point I'm > > usually bored with meditation or prayer and oh wait, that's why I > > never do any of those things anyway, at least not in planning, > > because ah I don't want to set aside time for "spiritual things" > > and "not spiritual things" and I usually throw my hands up, giving > up > > trying to find spiritualness in meditation and prayer. But that's > me, > > I wanted something more lasting, so not searching for anything, > > worked best for me. Other things may work best for other ppl. I > just > > give up. > > > > > > Love, > > > > Amanda. > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, > sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and > exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves > rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from > Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come > and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart > Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A > true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, > spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to > a. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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