Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Hi again, (dissloves) should read (dissolves) There is no beginning and there can be no end yet there is beginning and ending. Love, James , "nisarga111" <nisarga@c...> wrote: > > Hello Mike and Kayo, > > I share your views on the ocean and waves. > And, I feel that something more can be said - which is that the > ocean and waves are both water. > > In this light the ocean and the wave can be said to be qualities > of water. Water is 'The Whole' and its manifestation has the qualities > of the Stillness of the ocean and/or the movement of waves. > > And, neither the ocean nor the wave can be said to be 'part' of > the whole - each is 'The Whole'- water. > > In the same spirit there is 'Now' which is the Whole, and > qualities of 'Now' include: time-ocean-stillness and > past/future-wave-movement, periods of stillness and beginning/end... > > This understanding reveals that there never was a beginning and > that there can be no end - it is All Now - just like water. > > Openness is seeing the paradox. > Paradox is resolved (dissloves) in Openness, Love. > > Love, > James > > > > , kayo <kayotao@e...> wrote: > > Dear Mike, > > > > Thanks for your warm welcome and your brief description of the > ocean. > > I got the idea of it. > > I am wondering what god is to you. What is the water in the ocean > > independent of any waves=any creation, then? > > Does the unknown, god, have a physical body? > > > > > > Do you think that "there is god in every creation"? > > > > Every existence is part of the universe, and at the same time every > > existence contains the essences of the origin of the universe. > Then, > > every existence including each human body is a microcosm of the > universal. > > > > What are we and the rest of the physical universe made of? > > Every bit of matter in the universe more complex than hydrogen gas > must > > be manufactured in a star. That means everything in the universe is > > either a star or something that came from a star or stars that > exploded > > their matter out into space. Therefore everything else- the moon, > the > > planets, the earth and everything on the earth are made up of star > "stuff". > > Before we were people, we were pre-human animals, before we were > > pre-human animals, we were the earth, before we were the earth, we > were > > stardust, before we were stardust we were stars and before we were > stars > > we were the beginning of the universe. > > > > And the question is how seeming nothingness, non matter, turned > into > > matter some 15 billion years ago? > > At least what we can learn according to modern science and medicine > is > > that the same kind of transformations as in the beginning of the > birth > > of the universe have taken place in our bodies all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kayo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Hey James, I'm (very slowly) writing a book on spiritual puns. May I use this one? )dissloves - dissolves: coincidence? Hey, it's one or the other, right? You either dissolve, or you withdraw from love. (also, giving up "solving" problems is to dis-solve.) There's no problem if there's no need to solve it. Dissolve, Mark , "nisarga111" <nisarga@c...> wrote: > > Hi again, > > (dissloves) should read (dissolves) > > There is no beginning and there can be no end yet there is > beginning and ending. > > Love, > James > > , "nisarga111" <nisarga@c...> wrote: > > > > Hello Mike and Kayo, > > > > I share your views on the ocean and waves. > > And, I feel that something more can be said - which is that the > > ocean and waves are both water. > > > > In this light the ocean and the wave can be said to be qualities > > of water. Water is 'The Whole' and its manifestation has the > qualities > > of the Stillness of the ocean and/or the movement of waves. > > > > And, neither the ocean nor the wave can be said to be 'part' of > > the whole - each is 'The Whole'- water. > > > > In the same spirit there is 'Now' which is the Whole, and > > qualities of 'Now' include: time-ocean-stillness and > > past/future-wave-movement, periods of stillness and beginning/end... > > > > This understanding reveals that there never was a beginning and > > that there can be no end - it is All Now - just like water. > > > > Openness is seeing the paradox. > > Paradox is resolved (dissloves) in Openness, Love. > > > > Love, > > James > > > > > > > > , kayo <kayotao@e...> wrote: > > > Dear Mike, > > > > > > Thanks for your warm welcome and your brief description of the > > ocean. > > > I got the idea of it. > > > I am wondering what god is to you. What is the water in the ocean > > > independent of any waves=any creation, then? > > > Does the unknown, god, have a physical body? > > > > > > > > > Do you think that "there is god in every creation"? > > > > > > Every existence is part of the universe, and at the same time > every > > > existence contains the essences of the origin of the universe. > > Then, > > > every existence including each human body is a microcosm of the > > universal. > > > > > > What are we and the rest of the physical universe made of? > > > Every bit of matter in the universe more complex than hydrogen gas > > must > > > be manufactured in a star. That means everything in the universe > is > > > either a star or something that came from a star or stars that > > exploded > > > their matter out into space. Therefore everything else- the moon, > > the > > > planets, the earth and everything on the earth are made up of star > > "stuff". > > > Before we were people, we were pre-human animals, before we were > > > pre-human animals, we were the earth, before we were the earth, > we > > were > > > stardust, before we were stardust we were stars and before we were > > stars > > > we were the beginning of the universe. > > > > > > And the question is how seeming nothingness, non matter, turned > > into > > > matter some 15 billion years ago? > > > At least what we can learn according to modern science and > medicine > > is > > > that the same kind of transformations as in the beginning of the > > birth > > > of the universe have taken place in our bodies all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kayo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Hey Mark, Yes. Please use it. I was quite pleased with it too and considered leaving it as it was because it says things in a different way. So, now that you have expanded on its meaning - that has also been said. Thank You. Love, James , "markwotter704" <markwotter704> wrote: > Hey James, > > I'm (very slowly) writing a book on spiritual puns. May I use this > one? )dissloves - dissolves: coincidence? Hey, it's one or the > other, right? You either dissolve, or you withdraw from love. (also, > giving up "solving" problems is to dis-solve.) There's no problem if > there's no need to solve it. > > Dissolve, Mark > > , "nisarga111" <nisarga@c...> wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > (dissloves) should read (dissolves) > > > > There is no beginning and there can be no end yet there is > > beginning and ending. > > > > Love, > > James > > > > , "nisarga111" <nisarga@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Mike and Kayo, > > > > > > I share your views on the ocean and waves. > > > And, I feel that something more can be said - which is that > the > > > ocean and waves are both water. > > > > > > In this light the ocean and the wave can be said to be > qualities > > > of water. Water is 'The Whole' and its manifestation has the > > qualities > > > of the Stillness of the ocean and/or the movement of waves. > > > > > > And, neither the ocean nor the wave can be said to be 'part' > of > > > the whole - each is 'The Whole'- water. > > > > > > In the same spirit there is 'Now' which is the Whole, and > > > qualities of 'Now' include: time-ocean-stillness and > > > past/future-wave-movement, periods of stillness and > beginning/end... > > > > > > This understanding reveals that there never was a beginning > and > > > that there can be no end - it is All Now - just like water. > > > > > > Openness is seeing the paradox. > > > Paradox is resolved (dissloves) in Openness, Love. > > > > > > Love, > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > , kayo <kayotao@e...> wrote: > > > > Dear Mike, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your warm welcome and your brief description of the > > > ocean. > > > > I got the idea of it. > > > > I am wondering what god is to you. What is the water in the > ocean > > > > independent of any waves=any creation, then? > > > > Does the unknown, god, have a physical body? > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think that "there is god in every creation"? > > > > > > > > Every existence is part of the universe, and at the same time > > every > > > > existence contains the essences of the origin of the universe. > > > Then, > > > > every existence including each human body is a microcosm of the > > > universal. > > > > > > > > What are we and the rest of the physical universe made of? > > > > Every bit of matter in the universe more complex than hydrogen > gas > > > must > > > > be manufactured in a star. That means everything in the > universe > > is > > > > either a star or something that came from a star or stars that > > > exploded > > > > their matter out into space. Therefore everything else- the > moon, > > > the > > > > planets, the earth and everything on the earth are made up of > star > > > "stuff". > > > > Before we were people, we were pre-human animals, before we were > > > > pre-human animals, we were the earth, before we were the earth, > > > we > > > were > > > > stardust, before we were stardust we were stars and before we > were > > > stars > > > > we were the beginning of the universe. > > > > > > > > And the question is how seeming nothingness, non matter, turned > > > into > > > > matter some 15 billion years ago? > > > > At least what we can learn according to modern science and > > medicine > > > is > > > > that the same kind of transformations as in the beginning of the > > > birth > > > > of the universe have taken place in our bodies all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Kayo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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