Guest guest Posted March 26, 2002 Report Share Posted March 26, 2002 Dear James, thanks for expressing these very beautiful thoughts. Isn't it remarkable that the only one of the four elements fitting to illustrate the Infinite seems to be water? Or is it? Kindest regards, Michael > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: nisarga111 [nisarga] > Gesendet: Saturday, March 23, 2002 23:33 > An: > Betreff: Re: > > > > Hello Mike and Kayo, > > I share your views on the ocean and waves. > And, I feel that something more can be said - which is that the > ocean and waves are both water. > > In this light the ocean and the wave can be said to be qualities > of water. Water is 'The Whole' and its manifestation has the qualities > of the Stillness of the ocean and/or the movement of waves. > > And, neither the ocean nor the wave can be said to be 'part' of > the whole - each is 'The Whole'- water. > > In the same spirit there is 'Now' which is the Whole, and > qualities of 'Now' include: time-ocean-stillness and > past/future-wave-movement, periods of stillness and beginning/end... > > This understanding reveals that there never was a beginning and > that there can be no end - it is All Now - just like water. > > Openness is seeing the paradox. > Paradox is resolved (dissloves) in Openness, Love. > > Love, > James > > > > , kayo <kayotao@e...> wrote: > > Dear Mike, > > > > Thanks for your warm welcome and your brief description of the > ocean. > > I got the idea of it. > > I am wondering what god is to you. What is the water in the ocean > > independent of any waves=any creation, then? > > Does the unknown, god, have a physical body? > > > > > > Do you think that "there is god in every creation"? > > > > Every existence is part of the universe, and at the same time every > > existence contains the essences of the origin of the universe. > Then, > > every existence including each human body is a microcosm of the > universal. > > > > What are we and the rest of the physical universe made of? > > Every bit of matter in the universe more complex than hydrogen gas > must > > be manufactured in a star. That means everything in the universe is > > either a star or something that came from a star or stars that > exploded > > their matter out into space. Therefore everything else- the moon, > the > > planets, the earth and everything on the earth are made up of star > "stuff". > > Before we were people, we were pre-human animals, before we were > > pre-human animals, we were the earth, before we were the earth, we > were > > stardust, before we were stardust we were stars and before we were > stars > > we were the beginning of the universe. > > > > And the question is how seeming nothingness, non matter, turned > into > > matter some 15 billion years ago? > > At least what we can learn according to modern science and medicine > is > > that the same kind of transformations as in the beginning of the > birth > > of the universe have taken place in our bodies all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kayo > > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, > sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and > exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves > rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from > Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come > and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart > Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A > true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, > spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to > a. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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