Re:Backgrounds

[Guest guest]

Dear Vicki,

what shall I say? My question was meant in the relative sense, not in the

absolute as I try

to understand your reactions. That's all. If it is for you as you write it is

beautiful.

I am not yet in that state saying such about myself.

Gabriele

 

 

 

 

<<Dear Gabriele,

 

You mentioned several times our difference in backgrounds;

 

I am answering you on both lists as this topic was raised

on both ; I feel I have to answer you because as I feel

you keep on putting this false idea of a different background

between us. I don't feel in the same way.

So here is how I feel , hoping that this will help you

drop down this imaginary idea of a different background

that you put between us.

 

The only background that is ...is invisible.

 

worldly backgrounds are meant to provide

us the knowledge of the true background.

 

Once we have this knowledge , of what use are our

so called different backgrounds?

 

They are meant to be left away, they are of no use any more;

A dead past memory of a means that accomplished its task.

 

Backgrounds exist no more in Ramana's presence.

 

 

v.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Vicki

it is allright! Please stop! I did not asked after that. Your

feelings and intentions are clearly visible and ever had been.

For god's sake stop!

Gabriele

[Guest guest]

Dear Vicki,

what shall I say? My question was meant in the relative sense, not in the absolute as I try

to understand your reactions. That's all. If it is for you as you write it is beautiful.

I am not yet in that state saying such about myself.

Gabriele

 

 

 

 

<<Dear Gabriele, You mentioned several times our difference in

backgrounds; I am answering you on both lists as this topic was

raised on both ; I feel I have to answer you because as I feel you

keep on putting this false idea of a different background between us.

I don't feel in the same way. So here is how I feel , hoping that this

will help you drop down this imaginary idea of a different

backgroundthat you put between us. The only background that is ...is

invisible.worldly backgrounds are meant to provide us the knowledge

of the true background. Once we have this knowledge , of what use are

our so called different backgrounds? They are meant to be left away,

they are of no use any more;A dead past memory of a means that

accomplished its task. Backgrounds exist no more in Ramana's

presence. v.

[Guest guest]

Dear All, dear Vicki,

I am so much sorry and ashamed about all this. The disbute belong to

satsang and should not be here at all. All what I want is to

stop it and come back to the simple being in the presence of Ramana

together with all here and also with you, Vicki. I always enjoy your

postings very much and the high quality of them. All of us here enjoy

them and if there was once a critizism about the contents of one of

them (on satsang, which is the cause of all this) - it does

not diminish your good work at all which is a kind of sadhana for

you, I believe, something which brings you and us in contact with our

beloved master. This is of much value! This is much appreciated! I

want you to see coming back to this again with all my heart. And I

want to see me coming back to this again with all my heart. Anything

else is only waste of time and distraction.

 

Dear Vicki, what you see as a coldness in my answers is the

despairing trial to avoid further emotional disputes. They don't

bring good results. So I try to keep my own emotions (which are not

in the merest agains you - please believe!!!) hide as much as

possible for the sake of the list - and I thought also for the sake

of us. What is in my heart is a great sadness, a great exhaustion and

the question: How could this happen at all and what can we do to

avoid it happening in future?

I am willing to do everything what I can do avoiding it and make you

feel comfortable here again in every way with all your sharings.

Perhaps you can also give me that feeling that I may do my postings

in the same way. I will be in future more careful what I say and how

I say something. That is what I promise you to do. And if there is

any problem, please let us meet offlist.

 

When I would say now: I love you! - would you believe?

I love you!

Gabriele

 

RamanaMaharshi, "vioricail" <vioricail> wrote:

> > Dear Vicki

> > it is allright! Please stop! I did not asked after that. Your

> > feelings and intentions are clearly visible and ever had been.

> > For god's sake stop!

> > Gabriele

>

>

> I am sorry ; you said you can't understand my reactions ;

> so I was explaining ....

> there is much coldness in your answers to me on any list,

> many imperative signs at the end of the statements...

>

> there is much difference between your answers to me and to

> others , very kind to others and critical,cold

> and imperative to me ;

> one can't be imperative with any body on any list

> nor in life ; or yes one can ; but what is the result ?

> so why so many "!" signs for me ?

> please take a look back to your answers to me on both lists

> and count the imperative statements ;

> why ? to whom ?

>

> your tone is of one of arguing with me.

> what is it ? what for ?

> what did I do ?

>

>

> nobody will want our postings if whatever is

> wrong between us will not drop away ;

> they can't help; they don't help ;

>

> I am sorry I cause you so much unpleasantness;

> what dis I do ?

>

> People die around , one limb there , one brain on the other

> side of the road , and tomorrow my turn could come .

>

> You know why ?

> Because of backgrounds !

> And I am happy I got rid of mine.