Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 I want to do this in order to benefit others, to put down in writing in a form that can be understood what differentiates the terrorist in the clothing of the religious from the genuine. First of all, I would begin by rewriting this paragraph, as it is barely intelligible. Also, one should not try to get too sophisticated with this. Many fine writers have tackled this subject with more than some success. I would suggest as research, "THE TRUE BELIEVER" by Eric Hoffer, as a good reference work. Also, keep in mind that many things can be hijacked by power-hungry or misguided people: buses, cars, airplanes, political parties (Hitler was a great example of that!), clubs, organizations, schools, nightclubs, dancing schools, pet stores and I suppose...any group you could name. Once a strong willed and nefarious or even well intended, yet misguided individual seeks to imprint the entire organization with their ethos and atman, well, golly-gosh, it's curtains for the rest of the group and soon everybody is doing the tango, goose-stepping, raising only poodles, voting as a block, preventing unborn murders by killing doctors, wearing only green and generally being royal pains for the rest of the world... And I didn't even get into religion yet. Thanks for enduring my comments... Warm Thoughts... Namaste, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 I want to do this in order to benefit others, to put down in writing in a form that can be understood what differentiates the terrorist in the clothing of the religious from the genuine. Deluded self justification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 Harvey Schneider wrote: Deluded self justification? Why so grim a put down? It seems like a reasonable topic for investigation.Harvey what differentiates the terrorist in the clothing of the religious from the genuine? Deluded self justification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Share Posted April 23, 2002 Deluded self justification? Is this a political judgment, or what? Harvey No, it seems like the only reasonable answer to the question previously posed. Anyone committing terrorism under the guise of religious idealism is suffering from "deluded self-justification." It really is a very finely defined thing. Once a "believer" crosses over the line from discussion to violent action (particularly terrorism: by definition the act of violence against innocent or random victims to create panic or terror in a general populace) then they no longer genuinely can claim to be "religious." It is a sham, a farce, a posture to justify the personal political condition of the terrorist. Now, don't get me wrong. There may be times when forms of "terrorism" may be justified by conditions and political situations so extreme as to leave little other recourse. However, these are political and physical actions, not religious. No one should confuse this issue or be confused by those who would like to wield influence over the impressionable or easily led. Namaste (hold that bomb! Don't throw it unless you can afford to catch it, if it comes back!) Peace... Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Hello Zenbob, It is nice to touch your mind after such a while. Would you say that Arjuna commits a religious act in the Bhagavad-Gita? Or in another way of asking a question, is there such a thing as a religious act? Curious, Antoine << It really is a very finely defined thing. Once a "believer" crosses over the line from discussion to violent action (particularly terrorism: by definition the act of violence against innocent or random victims to create panic or terror in a general populace) then they no longer genuinely can claim to be "religious." It is a sham, a farce, a posture to justify the personal political condition of the terrorist. Now, don't get me wrong. There may be times when forms of "terrorism" may be justified by conditions and political situations so extreme as to leave little other recourse. However, these are political and physical actions, not religious. No one should confuse this issue or be confused by those who would like to wield influence over the impressionable or easily led. Namaste (hold that bomb! Don't throw it unless you can afford to catch it, if it comes back!) Peace... Zenbob >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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