Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Greg Goode [goode] Friday, June 25, 1999 6:44 PM "Who Am I?" and the "Lucknow Disease" Speaking of "Who am I," there's a funny story told by a teacher who spent lots of time with Papaji (Poonjaji). It's related to a spiritual condition suffered by some seekers called "The Lucknow Disease," named after the city in which Papaji taught. In Papaji's teachings for this group of seekers in the early 90's, it was a big part of their inquiry to ask "Who Am I" at all possible junctures. According to this teacher, who was in the middle of it all and saw/heard lots of funny stuff, here's how it happened: Any time someone would even casually say, "I'm hungry," or "I have to go to the loo," another earnest seeker would ask like the spiritual police, "Who's hungry?" "Who has to go to the loo?" So there developed a way of speaking that would avoid using the pronoun "I," which would supposedly indicate the gradual effacement of the ego or "I-thought." It got to the point that people would say stuff like "This form is tired," or "There is hunger arising." This avoidance of the "I" word, in order to display one's understanding, is the Lucknow Disease. One time there were these two seekers hanging around Papaji's house, they were friends, I'll call them Bill and Prem. Bill was newer to the non-dual perspective than Prem, who was quite a devotee, already had his spiritual name. One day they were waiting for the satsang, which would start a bit later. Bill offered the Prem a drink, "Would you like coffee or tea?" Prem, who was pretty deep into the Teaching, replied, "There's no one here to choose." Later, when the satsang was about to start, Prem was sitting in another room. Bill went in to warn Prem that another person had occupied his cushion, which had been parked waiting right up in front by Papaji's chair. Prem, before he caught himself, blurted out, "That no good #%@@ so-and-so, I'll get the @#$% #*@!$$ !!!" Regards! --Greg Thanks for the humor Greg. The former presidential candidate Bob Dole often addressed himself in the third person in speeches. He probably got the Advaita Vedanta vote but it was not enough to get him into the office. Which is too bad. We need a leader who understands that there is no one home, and that indeed there is a missing "me" which can only be referenced conceptually but not actually caught. Of course, we did not fare badly with our last President who is a scholar and a gentleman. President Clinton put his finger on the fundamental existential issue, when he sincerely told the grand jury; everything depends on what the definition of "is" is. :-). Harsha /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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