Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 You ask both wise and essential questions. I think your analysis reveals a good grasp of the discussions and the nature of existence. Now, to suggest answers... (not that anyone can really answer what really ends up being your duty to discover in your own life) First, in the non-duality model, we cannot assign such terms as "good and evil." I personally have no disagreement with your descriptions, and personally use the same valuations in regualr converation. However, for the sake of understanding the non-duality model, we must cast aside the notions of "those whom" as "opposed to we who" as this suggests duality. All consciousness, all things that have existence are part of one super state of balanced non-duality. There are fluxs of negative and positive energy, flowing in and out of the web of the cosmos, else nothing would enter into existence or flow out of it...there could not be creation or disintegration without these forces. On a personal level, we would view the disintigration as "negative" and the creation as "positive" but even atoms are made of both positive and negative sub-particles, and without both, the atom would not exist. On another level, the question of "does the evil doer have knowledge of their own evil, or does the ignorant person commit evil deeds and are they held responsible?" well, that is interesting. A child who kills a pet out of malicious intent we would call evil, a child who kills a pet through ignorant actions we would call "dumb or thoughtless" and a child who kills a pet by accident (maybe not even aware it was where it was) we would call "blamesless or tragic." However, the pet is still dead, as Ambrose Bierce would have said, and from its perspective none of these states of "intent or knowledge" alter its own experience one whit. But for humans, Intent seems a big thing. It's always used as our "out." "I didn't know..." :I did not mean to..." "If I had known..." Do you see where I am going? I do not personally think that the "universe" cares about our intent. I think our own consciousness does care, however. Our own sense of being right with our inner spirit depends on this. So, perhaps, on a level of spiritual development, intent is far more important than action. But, in the universe, where things exist, action is far more important than intent. Things get done by action, not by intent. Buildings are built and bridges blown up by action, not by intent. So, why is there evil? Or what we would deem to be "evil?" I think of "evil" as profound defects in the programming. Information that has lost a few too many "bits" and now it crashes or attempts to crash the programs that are meant to run harmoniously. But, "true evil" in contrast to just "forces in opposition" is relatively rare, and even less likely to be total and pure. Of course, the same could be said for "goodness." If we meditate and arrive at a more harmonious state of personal existence can it make the world around us better? I believe so. Can it stop evil? No, errors keep cropping up. Can an evil person be redeemed? Not since they closed down the Blue Chip Stamp Redemption Center, I am afraid. (just kidding) Maybe. Not usually. Not by any easily applied method---else it would be done already by those Non-Dual Experts who see all as "Perfect--you just don't know it yet." What these Schools of Thought provide is a path of self exploration and personal development. If we can find states of peace and harmony, one person at a time, then that is a good and progressive thing. If we cannot take along everyone else in the world, that is regrettable, but it is also a reality. Does that mean we should give up the journey or cease to share these mthods? No, of course not. It's like a doctor working in an emergency OP during a war. A big battle occurs and the dead and dying are just everywhere. Does the doctor give up and just admit defeat, cursing the evil that is all around? No, he does his duty and works to save as many lives as he can. First he also must have the best tools, and his knowledge must be ever improved if he is to do a good job as a doctor. He knows this. He knows that he may lose more patients than he saves. But, the point is that his job is to save as many as he possibly can. That's us. We're Spiritual Doctors and our job is to save the spiritual lives of those who desire to find a harmonious state of existence. One glimse of bliss is worth years of suffering. I suppose this may all be a poor answer to your fine questions...but it is something to weigh in your thoughts when you struggle that good sruggle against things that we might all agree are not good things. Blessings, Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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