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, shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

 

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> When a fool says that an enlightened being and a seeker

> are the same, it is not true. But when an enlightened

> one says it, it is a gift.

>

> namaste,

>

> Shawn

 

And CLANK goes the door on the conceptual cage.

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, "jodyrrr" <jodyrrr> wrote:

> , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

>

> [snip]

>

> > When a fool says that an enlightened being and a seeker

> > are the same, it is not true. But when an enlightened

> > one says it, it is a gift.

> >

> > namaste,

> >

> > Shawn

>

> And CLANK goes the door on the conceptual cage.

 

It is people's ideas about what an enlightened being is

that keep them from being one.

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on 6/9/02 11:24 AM, jodyrrr at jodyrrr wrote:

, shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

[snip]

> When a fool says that an enlightened being and a seeker

> are the same, it is not true. But when an enlightened

> one says it, it is a gift.

>

> namaste,

>

> Shawn

And CLANK goes the door on the conceptual cage.

============

Ahh....I'm so sorry you closed your door. Here is some more grease.

Do you presume that because we are told that we are overlooking the

fact that we are truely undying fathomless free consciousness

*already* that now we don't *have* to realise it ourself?

This is the epitome of the fool's logic.

Sque=e=e=e=e=K SLAM! AHhahahah

Shawn

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on 6/9/02 11:34 AM, jodyrrr at jodyrrr wrote:

It is people's ideas about what an enlightened being is

that keep them from being one.

==========

.....among other things, yes?......and is this your concept?

Shawn

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, shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

> on 6/9/02 11:24 AM, jodyrrr at jodyrrr wrote:

>

> , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

>

> [snip]

>

> > When a fool says that an enlightened being and a seeker

> > are the same, it is not true. But when an enlightened

> > one says it, it is a gift.

> >

> > namaste,

> >

> > Shawn

>

> And CLANK goes the door on the conceptual cage.

>

> ============

>

> Ahh....I'm so sorry you closed your door. Here is some more

> grease.

>

> Do you presume that because we are told that we are overlooking

> the fact that we are truely undying fathomless free consciousness

> *already* that now we don't *have* to realise it ourself?

 

I'm saying that believing enlightenment will make you any

different than you are now is preventing your enlightenment

from being known by you.

 

There are many admirable spiritual teachers, but putting

the realized into some sort of superclass of beings robs

them of their humanity and us of the possiblity of being

enlightened ourselves. Practiced humility only further

occludes the truth of our being the Self, as does the

belief that enlightenment confers automatic sainthood.

 

Most of us are too busy being humble to be saints, right?

> This is the epitome of the fool's logic.

>

> Sque=e=e=e=e=K SLAM! AHhahahah

>

> Shawn

 

always your fool--jody.

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, shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

> on 6/9/02 11:34 AM, jodyrrr at jodyrrr wrote:

>

> It is people's ideas about what an enlightened being is

> that keep them from being one.

>

> ==========

>

> ....among other things, yes?......and is this your concept?

>

> Shawn

 

Just something I picked up somewhere Shawn.

 

love--jody.

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