Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 well i thought i oughta put this out there while it was memorable and somewhat bizarre - i had mentioned how i had sacrificed/chopped my waist-length hair, hoping for happiness, or at least some amount of comprehension, now everybody here doesn't recognize me. They think I'm another person that they like a lot, and without exception tell me i look lighter and smile at me. there's been a raging storm all day here, must be 70 - 90 mph gusts - power went out earlier. my friend who is just now discovering she is bipolar just came back from the east coast from visiting her family, so instead of going on disability and groveling, her cousin is setting her up in business selling this rare caribbean stone, so i find myself dripping in silver jewelry, one of which is an eye pendant with a green-blue stone over my heart chakra, which is supposed to be healing... i feel like an egyptian goddess climbing the food chain in some thoroughly indistinguishable mystery school which i would invent myself if i knew how. are there xuch things??? curiouser, valerie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Wim Borsboom wrote: > <snip> > > What a very nice post... > <snip> I was thinking this excerpt might come in perfectly - the rest be damned... vc Excerpt from Don Miguel Ruiz’s “The Four Agreements” (A Totlec Wisdom Book). The second agreement is “Don’t take anything personally” Nothing other people do is because of you. It is because of themselves. All people live in their own dream, in their own mind; they are in a completely different world from the world we live in. when we take something personally, we make the assumption that they know what is in our world, and we try to impose our world on their world. Even when a situation seems so personal, even if others insult you directly, it has nothing to do with you. What they say, what they do, and the opinions they give are according to the agreements they have in their own minds. Their point of view comes from all the programming they received during domestication. Don’t take anything personally because by taking things personally you set yourself up to suffer for nothing. Humans are addicted to suffering at different levels and to different degrees, and we support each other in maintaining these addictions. Humans agree to help each other suffer. If you have the need to be abused, you will find it easy to be abused by others. Likewise, if you are with people who need to suffer, something in you makes you abuse them. It is as if they have a note on their back that says, “Please kick me”. They are asking for justification for their suffering. Their addiction to suffering is nothing but an agreement that is reinforced every day. As you make a habit of not taking anything personally, you won’t need to place your trust in what others do or say. You will only need to trust yourself to make responsible choices. You are never responsible for the actions of others; you are only responsible for you. When you truly understand this, and refuse to take things personally, you can hardly be hurt by the careless comments or actions of others. If you keep this agreement, you can travel around the world with your heart completely open and no one can hurt you. You can say, “I love you”, without fear of being ridiculed or rejected. You can ask for what you need. You can say yes, or you can say no—whatever you choose— without guilt or self-judgment. You can choose to follow your heart always. Then you can be in the middle of hell and still experience inner peace and happiness. You can stay in your state of bliss, and hell will not affect you at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Wim Borsboom wrote: <snip> So here it is online, condensed and abridged Valerie, I appreciate your reminder note very much. But did you not get the response in another way...? Silver and the blue green stone... ... ... <snip> I'm embarassed and rather unlikely to continue this exchange online. I just wondered what had happened to you. I'm sorry for your second younger brother. I'm pissed at my ISP. Why isn't everything impersonal - like a cyborg? later then, valerie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Hi Valerie You wrote: > i feel like an egyptian goddess climbing the food chain > in some thoroughly indistinguishable mystery school > which i would invent myself if i knew how. What a very nice post... And... ah yes, a green-blue stone over your heart... So well chosen for you, Valerie. And, yes there are xuch mysteries... And I love xuchness so muchly... Wim. PS You are still awaiting an offline answer...? But... but you will find it behind that stone, within your chest... That sweetness around the heart... that sweet sting of love... x marking the spot... xuchness... That sweet love is there, always just before the tears come in. v [amused] Monday, June 24, 2002 10:54 PM xuch mysteries well i thought i oughta put this out there while it was memorable and somewhat bizarre - i had mentioned how i had sacrificed/chopped my waist-length hair, hoping for happiness, or at least some amount of comprehension, now everybody here doesn't recognize me. They think I'm another person that they like a lot, and without exception tell me i look lighter and smile at me. there's been a raging storm all day here, must be 70 - 90 mph gusts - power went out earlier. my friend who is just now discovering she is bipolar just came back from the east coast from visiting her family, so instead of going on disability and groveling, her cousin is setting her up in business selling this rare caribbean stone, so i find myself dripping in silver jewelry, one of which is an eye pendant with a green-blue stone over my heart chakra, which is supposed to be healing... i feel like an egyptian goddess climbing the food chain in some thoroughly indistinguishable mystery school which i would invent myself if i knew how. are there xuch things??? curiouser, valerie /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 6/5/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Hi Valerie... Somehow email from me does not reach you offline: >... Your (Wim's) message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: > [snips] Recipient address: amused > Reason: Server rejected MAIL FROM address. > Diagnostic code: smtp;553 5.3.0 Spam blocked see:http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml? 24.71.223.10 > Remote system: dns;mail.ptialaska.net (TCP|10.0.120.163|54474|209.193.30.246|25) (ptialaska.net ESMTP - ptialaska.net) So here it is online, condensed and abridged Valerie, I appreciate your reminder note very much. But did you not get the response in another way...? Silver and the blue green stone... ... ... On Thursday I should have time to try again and in depth... This Wednesday my youngest brother leaves to return to Holland after his vacation here. My second youngest brother is preparing for eternal life (he is dying of lung cancer... he has not much time left) so we shared telephone time and email... Wim PS. But you were never out of my thoughts... Even now we are responding pretty much at the same time... Love you, Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Hi Valerie, Good quote that... valuable stuff in it... > Excerpt from Don Miguel Ruiz’s “The Four Agreements” (A Toltec Wisdom Book). > The second agreement is “Don’t take anything personally” Except, and I do not mean this facetiously, we cannot take that quote personally either... :-) ...as I do not live in my own dream...I am sure of that... and neither do you... I am sure of that as well. The following paragraph however: >>> If you keep this agreement, you can travel around the world with your heart completely open and no one can hurt you. You can say, “I love you”, without fear of being ridiculed or rejected. You can ask for what you need. You can say yes, or you can say no—whatever you choose— without guilt or self-judgment. You can choose to follow your heart always. Then you can be in the middle of hell and still experience inner peace and happiness. You can stay in your state of bliss, and hell will not affect you at all. <<< That paragraph is so true... and that one, we can take personally... Indeed curious and curiouser... Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 OK we will find a way... Wim v [amused (AT) ptialaska (DOT) net]Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:22 AMTo: Subject: Re: xuch mysteriesWim Borsboom wrote: <snip> So here it is online, condensed and abridged Valerie, I appreciate your reminder note very much. But did you not get the response in another way...? Silver and the blue green stone... ... ... <snip>I'm embarassed and rather unlikely to continue this exchange online. I just wondered what had happened to you. I'm sorry for your second younger brother. I'm pissed at my ISP. Why isn't everything impersonal - like a cyborg? later then, valerie /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2002 Report Share Posted June 30, 2002 in business selling this rare caribbean stone, so i find myself dripping in silver jewelry, one of which is an eye pendant with a green-blue stone over my heart chakra, which is supposed to be healing... i feel like an egyptian goddess climbing the food chain in some thoroughly indistinguishable mystery school which i would invent myself if i knew how. are there xuch things??? curiouser, valerie Quick, send photos...we will post them on the net & web pages and charge outrageous amounts for them to Neophytes and Those Who Wish To Serve. Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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