Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Thank you so much, Eric ! Indeed, you are right ! I note that you use the transliteration 'I'shoa', where I normally employ 'Yeshua'. But that's of no account. The first time I bacame aware of possible variations in vowel values was when I made a somewhat foolhardy attempt to learn hieroglyphics, and marveled at the names of Cleopatra and of numerous pharaohs. Then I became much involved with Sa'adi Neil's 'Dances of Universal Peace', though not as a practitioner ! Too stiff in the joints for that ! But his evocation of the multi-layered Middle Eastern language structure is so entrancing. I often find myself reciting, with varying success, the Abwoon d'washmaya... and the wonderful word 'inana', almost as mantras. Hope I'm not doing wrong in this; but such things are so very evocative. I have copies of Sa'adi Neil's small, but illuminating book 'Prayer of the Cosmos' and, indeed, 'Desert Wisdom'. Your message will result in my turning to them this very evening. Is it not passing strange how one can start off, early enough in life, associating Sufis with dancing dervishes and then, under benign and positive influences, eventually attain a greater appreciation altogether which adds a strand of spiritual wealth to one's life. And that, in turn, cannot be hidden, but needs to be given expression, even through all the personal inadequacies one presents to others in daily life. Shlama ! John.............Silent Companion........... ---- I thought you might like this John.......... LIKE VINE AND BRANCHES Isho'a said: Inana gpetha wa aton shbishte KJV: I am the vine and ye are the branches thereof.The depth of identity gives life,the depth of relationship receives it.The self conscious of its Self generates a current of vitality; the sense of "other" balances the circuit.Simple Presence is the artery through which health pulses; Simple Contact is the vein that restores universal healing.The ego hollowed by its own sense of mortality flows with breath; sympathy with another receives the flow in harmony.The eye of the whirlpool of subjectivity allows life to grow; the "thou" of the waves of objectivity allows life to age.The center of individuality's circle sends out rays; the space between any two of them forms "you."The "i am" is the vine of interiority;the "You are" is the branches of communion.from Desert Wisdom. Neil Douglas-Klotz. Dear Friends - for I want to think of you in that way and nurture a sense of unity, rooted in Earth and bursting into flower under the sun's radiance. It would be disrepectful to think that this can happen effortlessly overnight. Let all things come to fruition when the time is ripe ! (I'm much given to employing Aramaic-based imagery; but alas, I haven't the gift of composing poetry or painting beautiful, delicate flowers, nor even capturing on film the clear-flowing Norwegian water that appeared).I'd like to welcome Maggie, even as I was so readily made welcome ! It seems that she shared my own trepidation on 'taking the plunge' - but we have in common, not only a considerable volume of posts on the lists whence we came, but the presence here of Maizie, in whom joy of life overflows.Wishing you all things that are needful.John..... Silent Companion......../join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Attachment: (image/gif) [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 I thought you might like this John.......... LIKE VINE AND BRANCHES Isho'a said: Inana gpetha wa aton shbishte KJV: I am the vine and ye are the branches thereof. The depth of identity gives life, the depth of relationship receives it. The self conscious of its Self generates a current of vitality; the sense of "other" balances the circuit. Simple Presence is the artery through which health pulses; Simple Contact is the vein that restores universal healing. The ego hollowed by its own sense of mortality flows with breath; sympathy with another receives the flow in harmony. The eye of the whirlpool of subjectivity allows life to grow; the "thou" of the waves of objectivity allows life to age. The center of individuality's circle sends out rays; the space between any two of them forms "you." The "i am" is the vine of interiority; the "You are" is the branches of communion. from Desert Wisdom. Neil Douglas-Klotz. Dear Friends - for I want to think of you in that way and nurture a sense of unity, rooted in Earth and bursting into flower under the sun's radiance. It would be disrepectful to think that this can happen effortlessly overnight. Let all things come to fruition when the time is ripe ! (I'm much given to employing Aramaic-based imagery; but alas, I haven't the gift of composing poetry or painting beautiful, delicate flowers, nor even capturing on film the clear- flowing Norwegian water that appeared). I'd like to welcome Maggie, even as I was so readily made welcome ! It seems that she shared my own trepidation on 'taking the plunge' - but we have in common, not only a considerable volume of posts on the lists whence we came, but the presence here of Maizie, in whom joy of life overflows. Wishing you all things that are needful. John..... Silent Companion........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Ah yes, I am enchanted by all the names of Jesus. My own name is Isa, Which is the Arabic for that name. We all have a Jesus of our soul that must be born within us. Glad you resonated with the Sa'adi Neil work. Oh yes, I have 'Prayer of the Cosmos' also. In fact it tempted me to write my own Lord's Prayer recently. So have included it in this post (some will have seen this already), but its still quite readable. I think it needs expanding and clarifying, so I still consider it a work in progress. I am not an Aramaic scholar so it is only a transliteration of the KJV incorporating some contemporary spiritual understandings. love eric Jesus Spoke. A Lords Prayer When Jesus spoke his Lords prayer to us, he was the prayer of God in himself. He said - Our Father who is in the heaven of our embodiment, and is the Christ forever awake in eternity. Be opened! Meaning the heaven of your Godness you open now, is the potential for all future openings of creation. He said - Holy is Your name. For the name of God is your holiness. Your wholeness as you balance the heaven and earth of you. He said - Your Kingdom comes out of our agreement. Meaning your own realm of unity and harmony is called into being by the birthing of your will to be born in the sprit of the One. He said - Your will is done in the great alignment For it is the will of creation to manifest itself in the heart of intention. He said - of earth, as it is in heaven. Knowing that the divine duality must be brought into balance in the womb of the soul. He said - This moment is our sufficient abundance. For the bread and wine of existence is this awareness and acceptance. The harvest of well-being and bounty we bring from rest and presence. He said - For we forgive ourselves for the sin of forgetfulness. Meaning: Stay in the root of your awareness of love, to be loves remembrance. He said - And forgive those who forget. For what we see as forgetfulness is our own judgment of sin. He said - Having misjudged let us not be led by our own delusions, For the temptation to be righteous while blind to our own need for vigilance is the death of love in our hearts. He said - And by our own compassion shall we be delivered. For what is brought out as your vision is God realization, or God condemnation. He said - For this I Am is the foundation of truth. The kingdom you create in your heart, manifests upon earth and the totality of the All is the content of every atom. He said - For we are the shinning of the light of power. Meaning the light you allow now, is the light of all future possibilities. He said - that is our glory forever in You. For there is only the perfect consciousness of your divinity that shines from the love that you and all things are. He said - And so let it be. And our amen is a mantra of light that unfolds the cosmos of our truth. -------- And so we can say in the words of our own Jesus of awareness - Our Father who is in the heaven of our embodiment, and is the Christ forever awake in eternity - be opened! Holy is Your name. Your Kingdom comes out of our agreement. Your will is done in the great alignment of earth, as it is in heaven. This moment is our sufficient abundance. For we forgive ourselves for the sin of forgetfulness. And forgive those who forget. Having misjudged, let us not be led by our delusions, and by our own compassion shall we be delivered. For this I Am is the foundation of truth. For we are the shinning of the light of power, that is our glory forever in You. And so let it be. __________ Thank you so much, Eric ! Indeed, you are right ! I note that you use the transliteration 'I'shoa', where I normally employ 'Yeshua'. But that's of no account. The first time I bacame aware of possible variations in vowel values was when I made a somewhat foolhardy attempt to learn hieroglyphics, and marveled at the names of Cleopatra and of numerous pharaohs. Then I became much involved with Sa'adi Neil's 'Dances of Universal Peace', though not as a practitioner ! Too stiff in the joints for that ! But his evocation of the multi-layered Middle Eastern language structure is so entrancing. I often find myself reciting, with varying success, the Abwoon d'washmaya... and the wonderful word 'inana', almost as mantras. Hope I'm not doing wrong in this; but such things are so very evocative. I have copies of Sa'adi Neil's small, but illuminating book 'Prayer of the Cosmos' and, indeed, 'Desert Wisdom'. Your message will result in my turning to them this very evening. Is it not passing strange how one can start off, early enough in life, associating Sufis with dancing dervishes and then, under benign and positive influences, eventually attain a greater appreciation altogether which adds a strand of spiritual wealth to one's life. And that, in turn, cannot be hidden, but needs to be given expression, even through all the personal inadequacies one presents to others in daily life. Shlama ! John.............Silent Companion........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Dear Friends - for I want to think of you in that way and nurture a sense of unity, rooted in Earth and bursting into flower under the sun's radiance. It would be disrepectful to think that this can happen effortlessly overnight. Let all things come to fruition when the time is ripe ! (I'm much given to employing Aramaic-based imagery; but alas, I haven't the gift of composing poetry or painting beautiful, delicate flowers, nor even capturing on film the clear- flowing Norwegian water that appeared). I'd like to welcome Maggie, even as I was so readily made welcome ! It seems that she shared my own trepidation on 'taking the plunge' - but we have in common, not only a considerable volume of posts on the lists whence we came, but the presence here of Maizie, in whom joy of life overflows. Wishing you all things that are needful. John..... Silent Companion........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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