Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Let's do better than cutting to the chase... Let's just get to the scene where the hero gets the girl, shall we? Love, Blessings, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 ...... why stop there? perhaps the hero IS the Girl! BTW, i also enjoyed Roger Zelazney's Sci-Fi! In regard to Germany & Japan being allies (as a possible explanation for Roshi's remark), i would offer that what he was actually referring to in that statement was more akin thematically to Krishna's instruction to Arjuna. LoveAlways, b Yes, Bob, I think I actually did intuit that such was Roshi's real intent. I think my Axis remark was meant to be a bit glib and funny, but I suppose it isn't really a funny subject. Apologies for that lapse. As for the comment on the girl...well of course, you are quite right... But why couldn't the hero be a girl and also... get the girl? Today, we are accepting of all sorts of novel dramatic twists, mai non? Love, Hugs, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 The Fourth of July Holiday can provide us with a fun opportunity to consider and explore our own inherent Freedom. For example, it might be observed: Nothing is happening. Not a single thought, conception, or experience, high or low, is anything but a modification of dream, a hallucination, the conjunction of wave patterns, appearing very elusive to vision at times, and then rigidifying into seemingly solid objects. And yet there are no solid objects. This world is a phenomenon of light. Even quantum physics touches on this, positing that the essence of light is Consciousness Itself. Every sense of subjective or objective independence is just this -- this radiance of light. It is always an event in Consciousness, the vastness of which every thing that appears is simply a modification. If we attach, or cling, or fixate on any of these endlessly arising objects or conditions or their effects, exclusive of their Source, than we make those objects, states, or conditions "real" by the process of identification and differentiation -- we grant them substantiality apart from ourselves, time is born, and this reinforces the complex adventure in which we perceive ourselves as the knower/doer, separate from events. When that presumption is recognized as the activity of separation and thereby undermined, these billion appearances become non-binding, fluid, and delightful. The whole adventure they imply -- in whatever realm, heaven and earth and hell or high water -- is recognized as a portion of the dream, having no defining or ultimate significance, but only the play of mystery Itself. We do not know what any of this is! We cannot actually differentiate ourselves from a single thing, and this renders us so very vulnerable, and aflame with a Love which is without a landing place. There is no explanation for any of it, nor need for any explanation. We no longer seek to change our state by manipulating conditions or experience. We no longer look to be consoled, or amused, or redeemed, or forgiven, or transformed. This is not a matter of belief. It can be verified when one stops and contemplates the fact that they Are – simply aware that they Are, and that "what" is aware is unknowable, since nothing can be an object to itself. It just is. Is. What we know of dreams can serve to illuminate our "position" in the so-called waking state. In either, we are in exactly the same situation – we appear to create our environment in both conditions, as well as our sense of being an independent "I", but we have no idea how this is happening, except that we Are. Clearly the dream is our own consciousness -- who makes this dream but us? And yet we don't know what we Are, except that we Are. Dreaming arises in our own consciousness and dissolves just the same, but can we even call it "our own"? When we awaken, we realize the dream has no significance, except what we might attribute to it in our conditioned and conditional knowing, which is itself a kind of humorous pretense that most take quite seriously, nevertheless. So serious, in fact, that when differing knowings clash, rudeness and unkindness follow. Just so, this waking world can be seen as not a place or world, but an indefinite dimension that is not fixed like any object, but fluidly manifesting as a play of infinite possibility, and our limited points of view can begin to be submitted to a conscious process in which we unfold in a truly heart-felt relationship to the wonder of this mystery, without the terrible burden of knowing or identification, of concern about the implications of the dream world. And paradoxically, we can begin to become responsible for our separative tendencies, which are the real creators of every circumstance of the dream. This true responsibility is relative to the force of our own activity, which creates the drama. The dream itself does not have to be accepted or rejected in terms of any of its content. It resists definition. Where do we dream? Where is a place? It is our own habitual activity which is separating, contracting, seeking, suffering, imagining, and calling all of this into form and giving it a kind of reality. When this is seen, felt, and welcomed without recoil, then freedom "resumes" as the ordinary and natural state of being. Happy Fourth of July, Dear Friends! LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 , zen2wrk@a... wrote: >In all honesty, was this not just a bit too much of an intellectual exercise in Zenbobism, even for you? :-) .....not everyone has reached your immaculate understanding and razor- sharp intuitive grasp, Dear Sensei! there are many readers here, some of whom do not separate intellect from the diverse ways in which Love is always moving to recognize Itself afresh. >Let's do better than cutting to the chase... Let's just get to the scene where the hero gets the girl, shall we? ...... why stop there? perhaps the hero IS the Girl! BTW, i also enjoyed Roger Zelazney's Sci-Fi! In regard to Germany & Japan being allies (as a possible explanation for Roshi's remark), i would offer that what he was actually referring to in that statement was more akin thematically to Krishna's instruction to Arjuna. LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 , zen2wrk@a... wrote: >But why couldn't the hero be a girl and also... get the girl? .....could it be that one cannot get what one has not lost? >Today, we are accepting of all sorts of novel dramatic twists, mai non? ..... yes indeed! for example, Mazie was recently suggesting that we go to a State Fair where, among other things, i might learn something interesting about male pigs! LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 ..... yes indeed! for example, Mazie was recently suggesting that we go to a State Fair where, among other things, i might learn something interesting about male pigs! I have raised pigs. They are interesting, but their abodes are fragrent indeed. They are affectionate, intelligent, gregarious, clever and if one of their brethren is struck down, will immediately stop all other activity in order to drink the blood that is spilled. Therefore, I find them a bit closer to humans, in the general scheme of things than apes--which by and by do not have the same cartilege distribution as swine and humans--nor the same close matching of organs such as heart valves, kidneys, etc., which all blood type and sub match to human more readily. Also, did anyone realize that pig spelled backwards is "Gip?" Remember that old Ronald Reagan movie...and the line, "Save one for the Gipper?" Could there have been a sinister hidden meaning in that? Blessings, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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