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, Wim Borsboom <wim@a...> wrote:

> "We all started out prodigies,

 

I think that's where I trying to lead in my question. Our essential

nature is prodigious. I was watching a documentary on prodigies

and as I saw this little boy whip out intense classical pieces

on the piano, I wondered two things. First, how does this happen

and second, what if this kid were born into a world in which

there were no pianos. I resolved the answer to the first question

with the "Collective Conscious". It's all there, like on a hard-drive

and every once in a great while one of us tunes into a station that

on the surface appears miraculous.

 

But far more miraculous than the

existence of these kinds of prodigies in our world is the fact that it

happens at all and furthermore, how does this effect us all in our

everyday lives? What are we missing? I'm not suggesting that it's

a desirable thing for everyone to instantly became a master pianist.

On the level of form and manifest it could be something as simple

as being a better person... It's all here. Wow! Everything right

now.

 

Tuning in, tuning out

WDAVID

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"We all started out prodigies,

I think that's where I trying to lead in my question. Our essential

nature is prodigious.

Indeed, that is absolutely so. A parallel thought for me is that of a

tribal village basically cut off from modern or western civilization.

We sometimes make the silly error of thinking all members of such a

simple society as "simple people" but nothing could be further from

the case. It is true that the process of formal training and

education can nurture and fine tune native abilities, but genius

occurs in all places in all times. What of the genius born into a

very rural society or tribal village? Given opportunity he might be

a Mozart, a Yo-yo-Ma, an Einstein, or an Edison. So might many o f

us all, except that we have never connected with the right thing, or

have not had the blessing of formal training necessary to develop the

native talent...hiding, so to speak under the surface.

Beyond this apparent tragedy is the reality that we often seem to

ignore...that some people are given a lot more native talent than

others, and some are rather given short shrift and small brains. So,

truly, humans in general have prodigious abilities, but some never

quite have a fair shot...whereas others are given more than a fair

share...and even then, they cannot flourish in the culture or society

that they are living in.

Some waste the talent, some simply cannot focus it all, some

mistakenly get lured into totally wrong paths for their talents...and

some just become politicians, and we all know where that leads!

Blessings,

Love,

Zenbob

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your image of the universal Radiohead, is very apropos.

There is the well documented study of monkees that learn a particualr

new technique of shellfish cracking on an isolated island, and soon

all the monkees of this species, near and far, have picked up this

talent.

I think that intelligence is always there, and we just need to set our

dial to the correct frequency. Some of us keep tuning to Rap

stations, some to classical and others just rock on. Maybe the folks

tuning to the Rap stations should visit other parts of the dial, just

in case.

Blessings,

Zenbob

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Hi David and Zenbob,

 

Not too much time right now to dive deeper into this subject, but as I

was pondering, I was remembering the movie "I Am Sam"... There is some

sort of genius lurking in that movie, but not the kind like an "idiot

savant"... do not take me wrong. The prodigiousness comes out at the

very end... It is actually a combination of the bonsai-beauty

crookedness of minds, behaviours, manoeuvres and life situations that

eventually produces a very con-genial solution...

I saw in this movie how social infrastructures in a very meandering

way, somehow still positively conspired to get things right..., so

very right.

In the movie, I saw not the prodigiousness of a single person, as each

one somehow seemed to fail in his or her own aspirations and ideals,

but I saw the prodigiousness of a mix of complex living situations,

composting so to say to form a rich and humid subsoil from which

lotuses can grow... (or a large pumpkin patch)

This movie could have been so sappy or predictable, another Kramer vs.

Kramer (however good that movie was), but the genius behind the movie

was a kind of "laissez faire" based on a refound hope that somehow

the proof that society can get it right, one way or another, is still

in the ....

 

Wim

(I did not want to say pudding, one mix of metaphors is enough ;-)

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