Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Only imposters.... In the universe of Non-Duality, there can only be a True Human Being. :-) Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 , zen2wrk@a... wrote: There are no true human beings-- Only imposters.... In the universe of Non-Duality, there can only be a True Human Being. ....."Non-dual does not mean not dual." ~ Adyashanti To claim the universe is non-dual, without acknowledging the dual, is an error. To claim the universe is dual, without acknowledging the non-dual, is an error. Claimless, the True Human Being opens eyes in innocent wonder at the Mystery of Itself. LovingKindness prevails. LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 In the universe of Non-Duality, there can only be a True Human Being. Forest and trees, Bob. I was suggesting the super-unified state of consciousness where all beings, despite their duality and separateness would be mentally unified in their agreement on what represents a "human being" in the spiritual or active sense. If all are in total accord, then a state of supreme "human beingness" is the result. >From that point it would be easy to suggest and end to war, crime, etc. Peace, Blessings, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 , zen2wrk@a... wrote: >I was suggesting the super-unified state of consciousness where all beings, despite their duality and separateness would be mentally unified in their agreement on what represents a "human being" in the spiritual or active sense. If all are in total accord, then a state of supreme "human beingness" is the result. ....Dear Brother, this is an interesting notion, but would you be willing to consider the possibility that, in unity consciousness, there is no such fiction of beings in conceptual agreement, since this state is prior to conceptuality? of course, this makes no sense to mind, but must actually be a living experience, which is what i was trying to get at in the original discussion on becoming truly human. LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Share Posted July 12, 2002 there is no such fiction of beings in conceptual agreement, since this state is prior to conceptuality? I would, Bob, except that to posit a state "prior to conceptuality" is not logical. Any effort to suggest any state that pre-existed Consciousness is not consistent with the timeless Unification of a constant state of Super Consciousness. If we are focusing on the issue of individuation, a priori and then "ex post facto" (after the facts) menaing...the separation into the illusion of duality then the re-entry into the state of Unity, then you are correct, except that any such "unity" must contain always the full reality of both unified and separate consciousness AT ALL TIMES (actually it is just one super moment) and as such, one can just as easily speak of the "separate consciousnesses" as well as the "Unified Consciousness" which is in fact, the result of the unification. Admittedly these are all deep, quantum waters, but the state/non-state issue is ultimately real and does effect the universe--in that what we bleieve ultimately effects our state of existence, and that the ultimate Unity depends on individual consciousness just as much as individual consciousness depends on the Super Unity. Blessings, Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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