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The Silent Debate. . .

(. . .or could this be . . .of the traders world? An interpretation

of signals. . . and consequence of emotion!)

Several centuries ago, the Pope decreed that all the Jews had to

convert or leave Italy. There was a huge outcry from the Jewish

community, so the Pope offered a deal. He would have a religious

debate with the leader of the Jewish community. If the Jews won, they

could stay in Italy, if the Pope won, they would have to leave.

The Jewish people met and picked an aged but wise man, Rabbi Moishe,

to represent them in the debate. However, as Moishe spoke no Italian

and the Pope spoke no Yiddish, they all agreed that it would be a

"Silent Debate."

On the chosen day, the Pope and Rabbi Moishe sat opposite each other

for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and showed three

fingers.

Rabbi Moishe looked back and raised one finger.

Next, the Pope waved his finger around his head.

Rabbi Moishe pointed to the ground where he sat.

The Pope then brought out a communion wafer and a chalice of wine.

Rabbi Moishe pulled out an apple.

With that, the Pope stood up and declared he was beaten, that Rabbi

Moishe was too clever and that the Jews could stay.

Later, the Cardinals met with the Pope, asking what had happened. The

Pope said, "First I held up three fingers to represent the

Trinity. He responded by holding up one finger to remind me that

there is still only one God common to both our beliefs.

Then, I waved my finger to show him that God was all around us. He

responded by pointing to the ground to show that God was also right

here with us.

I pulled out the wine and wafer to show that God absolves us of all

our sins. He pulled out an apple to remind me of the original sin. He

had me beaten and I could not continue."

Meanwhile, the Jewish community was gathered around Rabbi Moishe.

"What happened?" They asked. "Well," said Moishe, "First he said to

me that we had three days to get out of Italy, so I said to him, 'Up

yours!'

Then he tells me that the whole country would be cleared of Jews and

I said to him, Mr. Pope, we're staying right here."

"And then what," asked a woman.

"Who knows?" said Moishe, "He took out his lunch, so I took out mine."

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