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An ordinary shopkeeper in the backlanes of Bombay, India. In middle age

Truth exploded within him dissolving the sense of individual forever.

 

 

 

Nisargadatta Maharaj

 

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Dates: 1897 - 1981, India

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Question:What is meditation?

 

 

 

Maharaj: To be one with THAT because of which we know we exist is

meditation. There are a number of names which have been given to Gods, all

of them represent the same things - they represent this knowledge that one

is, this beingness, consciousness. This knowledge does not refer to an

individual, but to the sense of presence as a whole. Instead of accepting

this knowledge as a total functioning, one wants to cut up the knowledge

into bits and pieces, taking a part for himself, based on some concept. Any

knowledge based on a concept is not true knowledge...

 

When you are dwelling in this consciousness you see that you are not doing

anything, it is all happening spontaneously. There is no question of your

trying to do anyting. You cannot try to be your Self, because you are your

Self.

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Nisargadatta, a realized master of the Tantric Nath lineage, had a wife and

four children and lived in a small apartment in the slums of Bombay. For

many years he supported himself and his family by selling cheap goods in a

small booth on the streets outside his tenement. His life was a telling

parable of the absolute nonduality of Being.

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"There is no question of going anywhere, arriving anywhere, or doing

anything; you are there already.

 

"One has to work in the world; naturally, carry on your worldly affairs, but

understand that that which has come about by itself - that is, this body,

mind and consciousness - has appeared in spite of the fact that nobody has

asked for it. .. The life force and the mind are operating, but the mind

will tempt you to believe that it is "you". Therefore, understand always

that you are the timeless, spaceless witness. And even if the mind tells you

that you are the one who is acting, don't believe the mind. Always keep your

identity separate from that which is doing the working, thinking and

talking. That which has happened - that is, the apparatus which is

functioning - has come upon your original essence, but you are not that

apparatus."

 

 

>From 'PRIOR TO CONSCIOUSNESS Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj' Edited by

Jean Dunn, The Acorn Press 1990,

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, shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

 

Therefore, understand always

> that you are the timeless, spaceless witness. And even if the mind

tells you

> that you are the one who is acting, don't believe the mind. Always

keep your

> identity separate from that which is doing the working, thinking and

> talking. That which has happened - that is, the apparatus which is

> functioning - has come upon your original essence, but you are not

that

> apparatus."

 

Hmmmmm...do I really want to keep separate my "identity" and

the "timeless, spaceless witness"? If there is separation, there is a

relationship. With relationship, there is a motive.

 

Perhaps identity is Witness reflected in a mirror.

Does Witness attempt to reflect onto a mirror Identity?

No, Witness is.

 

It is through spiritual practice that Witness is perceived. Does

spiritual practice foster/reflect "good" identity?

 

A claim that Witness fosters good or bad is a projection of my

understanding and identity.

 

 

anyway, thanks for quote

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> An ordinary shopkeeper in the backlanes of Bombay, India. In middle

age

> Truth exploded within him dissolving the sense of individual

forever.

>

>  

>

> Nisargadatta Maharaj

>

> --

----

> Dates: 1897 - 1981, India

> --

----

> Question:What is meditation?

>

>

>

> Maharaj: To be one with THAT because of which we know we exist is

> meditation. There are a number of names which have been given to

Gods, all

> of them represent the same things - they represent this knowledge

that one

> is, this beingness, consciousness. This knowledge does not refer to

an

> individual, but to the sense of presence as a whole. Instead of

accepting

> this knowledge as a total functioning, one wants to cut up the

knowledge

> into bits and pieces, taking a part for himself, based on some

concept. Any

> knowledge based on a concept is not true knowledge...

>

> When you are dwelling in this consciousness you see that you are

not doing

> anything, it is all happening spontaneously. There is no question

of your

> trying to do anyting. You cannot try to be your Self, because you

are your

> Self.

> --

----

>

>

> Nisargadatta, a realized master of the Tantric Nath lineage, had a

wife and

> four children and lived in a small apartment in the slums of

Bombay. For

> many years he supported himself and his family by selling cheap

goods in a

> small booth on the streets outside his tenement. His life was a

telling

> parable of the absolute nonduality of Being.

> --

----

>

>

> "There is no question of going anywhere, arriving anywhere, or doing

> anything; you are there already.

>

> "One has to work in the world; naturally, carry on your worldly

affairs, but

> understand that that which has come about by itself - that is, this

body,

> mind and consciousness - has appeared in spite of the fact that

nobody has

> asked for it. .. The life force and the mind are operating, but the

mind

> will tempt you to believe that it is "you". Therefore, understand

always

> that you are the timeless, spaceless witness. And even if the mind

tells you

> that you are the one who is acting, don't believe the mind. Always

keep your

> identity separate from that which is doing the working, thinking and

> talking. That which has happened - that is, the apparatus which is

> functioning - has come upon your original essence, but you are not

that

> apparatus."

>

>

>

> >From 'PRIOR TO CONSCIOUSNESS Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj'

Edited by

> Jean Dunn, The Acorn Press 1990,

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on 7/17/02 8:20 AM, d_agenda2000 at d_agenda2000 wrote:

It is through spiritual practice that Witness is perceived. Does

spiritual practice foster/reflect "good" identity?

>>One needn't do a thing except notice. The witness is always here, yes?

>>The witness doesn't do anything including judge "good and bad"...is

the absence of good and bad....good? Hahahah don't think about it!

A claim that Witness fosters good or bad is a projection of my

understanding and identity.

>>You have understood. But who claimed that stuff?

anyway, thanks for quote

>>Namaste Shawn

> An ordinary shopkeeper in the backlanes of Bombay, India. In middle

age

> Truth exploded within him dissolving the sense of individual

forever.

>

>  

>

> Nisargadatta Maharaj

>

> --

----

> Dates: 1897 - 1981, India

> --

----

> Question:What is meditation?

>

>

>

> Maharaj: To be one with THAT because of which we know we exist is

> meditation. There are a number of names which have been given to

Gods, all

> of them represent the same things - they represent this knowledge

that one

> is, this beingness, consciousness. This knowledge does not refer to

an

> individual, but to the sense of presence as a whole. Instead of

accepting

> this knowledge as a total functioning, one wants to cut up the

knowledge

> into bits and pieces, taking a part for himself, based on some

concept. Any

> knowledge based on a concept is not true knowledge...

>

> When you are dwelling in this consciousness you see that you are

not doing

> anything, it is all happening spontaneously. There is no question

of your

> trying to do anyting. You cannot try to be your Self, because you

are your

> Self.

> --

----

>

>

> Nisargadatta, a realized master of the Tantric Nath lineage, had a

wife and

> four children and lived in a small apartment in the slums of

Bombay. For

> many years he supported himself and his family by selling cheap

goods in a

> small booth on the streets outside his tenement. His life was a

telling

> parable of the absolute nonduality of Being.

> --

----

>

>

> "There is no question of going anywhere, arriving anywhere, or doing

> anything; you are there already.

>

> "One has to work in the world; naturally, carry on your worldly

affairs, but

> understand that that which has come about by itself - that is, this

body,

> mind and consciousness - has appeared in spite of the fact that

nobody has

> asked for it. .. The life force and the mind are operating, but the

mind

> will tempt you to believe that it is "you". Therefore, understand

always

> that you are the timeless, spaceless witness. And even if the mind

tells you

> that you are the one who is acting, don't believe the mind. Always

keep your

> identity separate from that which is doing the working, thinking and

> talking. That which has happened - that is, the apparatus which is

> functioning - has come upon your original essence, but you are not

that

> apparatus."

>

>

>

> >From 'PRIOR TO CONSCIOUSNESS Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj'

Edited by

> Jean Dunn, The Acorn Press 1990,

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