Cycles of Rebirth:Not talking to me, but.....

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, Teegee555@a... wrote:

> Gloria writes:

>

> > So you ask a question here, you get answers from a variety of

perpectives,

> > and that's a good thing. If mine isn't helpful, no worries,

> > I'm just talking to myself anyway.

> >

>

>

> Hiya Gloria,

>

> 'Scuse me for butting in here, but this "I'm just talking to myself

anyway"

> really irks me when I hear it (or the 'You are only talking to

yourself'

> while trying to make a conversation with someone.) It doesn't irk

me in the

> irritated kinda way, but that you, Gloria of all people, are

underestimating

> yourself. (and no, I'm not underestimating myself). Your words to

John are

> your words from your heart to his if he wants them. And if he

doesn't, it

> was already yours to begin with, and you wouldn't have given them

if you

> hadn't already accepted and known the words as yours. You weren't

talking to

> yourself. You were having a conversation with him.

>

> There came a point in my life where I stopped talking to myself and

the

> other, and began talking only to the other alone. What??!@!!! How

can that

> be when we are One? Well, you are one, I am one, he is one, she is

one, we

> are all one. You and me together do not make One -- because then

without

> you, I'd only be a half. :-) (1 whole plus 1 whole = 2 wholes).

>

> And the more I include others to be one with me, the less "I" am.

>

> (But we want less of "I", right? Get rid of that "I", that ego).

And that

> is true during a certain point along the path. I had to use

another to help

> teach and learn myself, by talking to myself. I only knew I was

whole by

> doing that. I didn't fully understand I and everyone else was

always whole!

>

>

> You are you and I am me, with all our wonderful mistakes, faults,

opinions,

> and beautiful things about us. And when I talk to you Glo, I want

you to

> know I am really talking to you. Not me, not something I need to

learn, nor

> something you need to learn. Just sharing, and like you said 'take

it or

> leave it'.

>

> And when you talk, I know you are talking to me, not yourself. It

> eventually gets to be a tiresome world out there just talking to

yourself,

> seeing everyone as l/2 of our whole. If I said it, or you said it,

then it

> is something we've embraced and know. And if I'm wrong in any

knowing, I'm

> wrong. If I'm right, I'm right. And I hope you would tell me I'm

right or

> wrong as this is how we grow if we all remain openminded....

through and with

> each other.

>

> And if both are right, or both are wrong, that's okay too.

>

> But really, I say who gives a crap. I don't listen to myself

anyway. And if

> I ever said anything good, maybe someone will remind me someday if

I need to

> hear it again because I temporarily forgot.

>

> I listen to you all the time. If I listened to me, I'd be kicking

myself in

> the butt most the day. :-)

>

> Gloria, your words have always meant more to me than you will ever

know. You

> know why? Because they come from your heart, which is who you

are. They

> come from what you know. (not what you need to know)

>

> Hugs,

> xxxtg

 

Hi Teegee,

 

Taking you points about messaging to heart....

A message aimed at expressing understanding of who we are, like

any packet of info, can have a heartfelt or mental tone. And right,

it's my own conditioning that chocks these catagories up; catagories

abound.

The "heart" symbolizing and resonating more with core being; the

mental, that apparatus that filters and processes.

As you imply, a message expressed from the Heart works to bridge a

gap between a "you" and an "I".

A message about "I" feels mental, as if the contributor is talking to

themselves, dispassionately, ....whereby an intention of

acknowledging "you" is absent.

I'm suggesting that discussions of I, like any other is wrought with

intention.

I'm accept the notion that all discussion about I or Self should be

acceptable whether it comes off as personal or impersonal. All

discussion of I or Self should be acceptable whether it's done

passionately or dispassionately, with humor or without.

So I consider that there are different intentions and catagorize.

 

cj