Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Good Work, Papa! Love, Kheyala , Wim Borsboom <wim@a...> wrote: > Kheyala, > > We lived (and are still) with our son (Emanuel) as radical as you are with > Ananda (radical = from the root up) . > > He is 25 years and a fully functioning being, a computer programmer, hiker, > nature lover, fun maker, lover and beloved..., as realized as a flower or a > tree or a rock... or what we used to call a saint or a realized being. > > An intent face... a friendly face, handling very difficult situations as > well as easy ones, knowing how to distantiate himself from them while > handling them freely, not losing himself... > He is direct... I never saw him "think" but "de-liberate" he always does... > No pedestal... not needed when people are "well rooted and well branched > out", or to say it different again "grounded" as well as "sky-ed" with a > firm connecting trunk... > > Is he what some nowadays call an "Indigo" child... of course not! > Indigo children are a concept from this society very often pointing at > children with a certain "problematique"... Have you noticed that? > Emanuel was never a rebel but "radical" he is, he never sacrificed himself > but always has his arms wide open. > > There was never any risk involved in his growing up... > > He is exactly what he would have been if nothing would have gone astray, and > ... nothing did go astray... > We interfered as little as we could know, and even very well parents do > interfere, but "as grass grows by itself"... so does a child. Just be as > unconditional as natural life... > Natural life IS CONDITIONING, but CONDITIONAL IT IS NOT. > In the divine human life of divine nature, nothing is conditional upon > approval or disapproval. > > It was actually neat yesterday in Toronto, Pope John Paul II said, and I > paraphrase a bit as he spoke this in French, Adam and Even where born in > Eden, a heavenly state on earth. Jesus as God Man showed that man and woman > will be God again... > > Sure, maybe a somewhat archaic language, but not an archaic truth... Live > in joyous love and truth... Sat Chit Ananda. > > Wim > > (Oh Kheyala, you will also later, so enjoy the talks with your > daughter(s)... Emanuel is older of course, but pretty well every Saturday > when he comes over, the amount of tea we drink in the morning cannot express > the joy that flows between all of us... > Oh and he likes good coffee too...) > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 7/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 You know Kheyala, Emmy and myself go by our first name with Emanuel, but I like the way it sounds... "Papa". I have never heard anybody say that to me, I never ever even considered myself to be "Papa"... You really surprised me there... and... it feels very good... ! I'll tell Emmy tonight... "Good work Mama..." But I know she'll say that it wasn't big stuff really... she'll probably also say, "Oh ya, grass grows by itself, but those diapers took him a long time to grow out off..." The potty training actually happened at the Montessori preschool, there must be a "sensitive period" for that... Actually one of the kids showed him and boy was he ready...! Wim (Diapers... an equal opportunity task!) kheyalove [kheyala] Friday, July 26, 2002 7:27 PM Re: About "Ananda" (Wim) Good Work, Papa! Love, Kheyala , Wim Borsboom <wim@a...> wrote: > Kheyala, > > We lived (and are still) with our son (Emanuel) as radical as you are with > Ananda (radical = from the root up) . > > He is 25 years and a fully functioning being, a computer programmer, hiker, > nature lover, fun maker, lover and beloved..., as realized as a flower or a > tree or a rock... or what we used to call a saint or a realized being. > > An intent face... a friendly face, handling very difficult situations as > well as easy ones, knowing how to distantiate himself from them while > handling them freely, not losing himself... > He is direct... I never saw him "think" but "de-liberate" he always does... > No pedestal... not needed when people are "well rooted and well branched > out", or to say it different again "grounded" as well as "sky-ed" with a > firm connecting trunk... > > Is he what some nowadays call an "Indigo" child... of course not! > Indigo children are a concept from this society very often pointing at > children with a certain "problematique"... Have you noticed that? > Emanuel was never a rebel but "radical" he is, he never sacrificed himself > but always has his arms wide open. > > There was never any risk involved in his growing up... > > He is exactly what he would have been if nothing would have gone astray, and > ... nothing did go astray... > We interfered as little as we could know, and even very well parents do > interfere, but "as grass grows by itself"... so does a child. Just be as > unconditional as natural life... > Natural life IS CONDITIONING, but CONDITIONAL IT IS NOT. > In the divine human life of divine nature, nothing is conditional upon > approval or disapproval. > > It was actually neat yesterday in Toronto, Pope John Paul II said, and I > paraphrase a bit as he spoke this in French, Adam and Even where born in > Eden, a heavenly state on earth. Jesus as God Man showed that man and woman > will be God again... > > Sure, maybe a somewhat archaic language, but not an archaic truth... Live > in joyous love and truth... Sat Chit Ananda. > > Wim > > (Oh Kheyala, you will also later, so enjoy the talks with your > daughter(s)... Emanuel is older of course, but pretty well every Saturday > when he comes over, the amount of tea we drink in the morning cannot express > the joy that flows between all of us... > Oh and he likes good coffee too...) > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 7/10/2002 /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 7/10/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 7/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 , Wim Borsboom <wim@a...> wrote: <snip> > I'll tell Emmy tonight... "Good work Mama..." But I know she'll say that it > wasn't big stuff really... she'll probably also say, "Oh ya, grass grows by > itself, but those diapers took him a long time to grow out off..." <snip> I love that well-balanced "probable quote" from Emmy: how both the non-doing and the doing are true, even while in secret we know that we're not even doing the doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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