Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 Dear Bobby, You wrote: > I have never read the Heart Sutra. > I am sure your knowledge of it > would be appreciated by everyone. Let's start with offering some traditional translations from the Sanskrit: http://www.buddhanet.net/heartstr.htm http://www.io.com/~snewton/zen/sanskrit.html A translation from a Tibetan version is at: http://www.silcom.com/~eclarson/heartsutra/hs-english.html A verbatim translation from Tibetan is also to be seen and heard at that site: http://www.silcom.com/~eclarson/heartsutra/hs-ra/hs10.html I have started my own translation from the core of the text, as I hold that the original was short and to the point. Various recitation practices and methods of learning by rote in order to remember by heart, have made this sutra to be longer and repetitive. This made it lose its clarity and succinctness. Translations needs to be done from 'putting your self as much as possible into the slippers of the original wise man'. One has to be fully cognizant - try at least - of the worldview that the sage lived and spoke from. Still, even a not so perfect translation, even a translation that provides opposite meanings than the original Sanskrit intended can lead to great insights... it happened to me... and millions of others... Love, Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 7/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 , Wim Borsboom <wim@a...> wrote: >I hold that the original was short and to the point.... Form is empty. Emptiness is form. The activity of form is not other than emptiness, nor is the action of emptiness other than form. It's the same with feeling, cognition, conception, and consciousness. Dear One, in this way all dharmas are empty, without any qualification, not existing, not ceasing, without bondage or liberation from bondage, undiminished, limitless. Dear One, in this way, in emptiness there is no form, no feeling, no cognition, no conception, no consciousness. There is no eye, no ear, no nose, no tongue, no body, no mind, no shape, no sound, no color, no flavor, no feeling, no space. There is no center of vision, no center of mind, no center to reference interpretation of perception. No ignorance, no end of ignorance, no aging and death, no end of aging and death. It's the same for suffering, misery sin, nirvana. There is no path, no wisdom, no enlightenment, no non-enlightenment. Dear One, in this way all buddhas -- realizing nothing, anchored in the Heart -- are clear, fearless. They are not the one confused, they are not the one suffering. They are Free. There's a saying: "Gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi swaha." This is how the Compassionate One -- Beloved -- whispers from the Heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 Dear Dear Robert, What a gift to send Han Shan and his commentary along with the Heart Sutra. Even tho it may seem long in an email forum, I hope many will take the time to read him. His commentaries on the Heart and on the Diamond Sutra were translated for the now classic Rider series, 3 volumes of Chan and Zen Teaching that appeared in the 60's. One of the first things my husband and I read together aloud when he retired a few years ago. So many times I could barely speak his words as I was so moved by them. I would have to stop for long moments before able to speak what I had seen to read and then we wept together at hearing them aloud. ... Han Shan was so present with us. Later, I found a short biography of his life written by Han Shan himself, year by year. He worked tirelessly to restore both the teachings and the monastery buildings throughout China in a time of neglect. The accounts of his travels year by year, mostly on straw sandals are written so straightforwardly, like his clear commentaries. This biography is now available on the web, along with some few maxims. It begins here: http://www.hsuyun.org/Dharma/zbohy/Literature/HanShan/hanshan-acknowledgments.html Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 , "Gloria Lee" <glee@c...> wrote: >So many times I could barely speak his words as I was so moved by them. I would have to stop for long moments before able to speak what I had seen to read and then we wept together at hearing them aloud. ... Han Shan was so present with us. )))) Dear Gloria, Yes! As i sat with my Beloved yesterday, i attempted to read some of the Han Shan to her, and could not get through a phrase or sentence without just bursting out in tears, just as i do now, at the memory of that silent night, that purity! LoveAlways, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 Dearest Robert and Mazie, >>>This is how the Compassionate One -- Beloved -- whispers from the Heart. <<< And having heard these whispers, returning grace and gratitude from same... Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 7/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 , Wim Borsboom <wim@a...> wrote: >> And having heard these whispers, returning grace and gratitude from same... When we are softened and opened enough to accept things as they actually are, to accept ourselves as we actually are, then the old conflict, the wanting it all to be something other than it is, subsides. There is great mercy here. One allows the anxious animals to climb up on the bed and cuddle next to us, all creatures in the embrace of the eternal night. Vastness pumps itself through every bloodstream, circling an oasis named the heart. The heart is the Abode of Bliss, it has no boundary of flesh, thought, feeling. This bloodstream originates in the same source as anxious animals, lovers, sense of self. The energy required to resist in opposition is the same energy that powers the machine of clinging. We left the rusting machines by the river bank with our clothes, and now we float the currents on our bellies, dazzled by the glinting streambed stones passing swiftly beneath us. LoveAlways, Mazie & b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 (Since heart is a topic... Glo) XAN from Million Paths More about the HeartFor me any place and time is good for meditation.Grace has so overwhelmed me that I ride the crest of the wind and travel to the nth place.But where is the nth place in our wide world?That is right in our Heart.If we simply withdraw our attention from the external world and turn to the Heartwe shall find ourselves diving deep into the river of peace and bliss.-- Bhakta Bhagwat, In Search of Self```````````The timeless is in the now.It is in the heart centre.The head belongs to time.You can never experience the timeless in the head.The heart is the timeless.It is only at this point that there is presence.--Jean Klein, Transmission of the Flame```````````Let your love flow outward through the universe,To its height, its depth, its broad extent,A limitless love, without hatred or enmity.Then as you stand or walk,Sit or lie down,As long as you are awake,Strive for this with a one-pointed love;Your life will bring heaven to earth.from Sutta NipataBuddha's Discourse on Good Will```````````The heart has always been representedas the source of human kindness,the wellspring of warmth and tender care.It is the cup that holdsthe nectar of compassion.The heart is alsothe most sacred place of worshipfrom which devotion flows like honey.All virtues make their homein the infinite spaceshining in the depths of the heart.-Gurumayi```````````The heart should be meditated upon as the resting-place.For all beings find rest in the heart.The heart is God.-Brihadaaranyaka Upanishad```````````"The True Sanctuary is nowhere butwithin one's very own heart,"said Bodhidharma. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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