Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 Jan & Friends, Jan says: The mention of levels (states) denotes their transitoriness and pictures the narrator believing, and judging the states like "lower", "higher", "highest". Thus the yearning show goes on and on. :-) Jan, the same point is implied but not stated in Robert Monroe's "Far Journeys", the follow up to the runaway success of "Journeys Out of the Body". When the 1st book came out in 1985 it created quite a stir. Monroe wasn't a wide eyed hippy trance-endentalist, but rather a millionaire businessman, very successful in his field, sophisticated and accomplished. He claimed to have discovered and practiced a technique for seperating from the body and exploring other levels of reality. Apparently, he had some notable successes in helping others to do the same thing, and he still runs a successful "dream search" business in Virginia. The 1st book chronicles a number of Journeys to areas he labeled Level 1 and Level 2, etc. Skipping over a lot of fascinating material (Monroe makes as good a case for OBE's as you are likely to come across)by the time you are reading the 2nd book, you realize that these OBE beings who may be helping M in his explorations are simultaneously showing him that these levels are just more of the same tiresome and confusing melodrama as here below. Monroe might not agree with me, as he clearly has a mission(if you can believe in "missions" at all)to spread knowledge about OBE's and the subtle realms and other rooms available to some of us in "God's mansion". But the realms available to him make it quite clear that though exploring them for us may be part of his karmic assignment, (and a lot of fun, until it grows tiresome), real mystical achievement lies elsewhere. According to what you can accept, the same argument is certainly dramatically incorporated into the last few Castaneda books as well. yours in the bonds, eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 On 8/15/02 at 7:54 PM eblack101 wrote: ºJan & Friends, º ºJan says: The mention of levels (states) denotes their ºtransitoriness and pictures the narrator believing, and judging the ºstates like "lower", "higher", "highest". º ºThus the yearning show goes on and on. º:-) º ºJan, the same point is implied but not stated in Robert Monroe's "Far ºJourneys", the follow up to the runaway success of "Journeys Out of ºthe Body". When the 1st book came out in 1985 it created quite a ºstir. Monroe wasn't a wide eyed hippy trance-endentalist, but rather ºa millionaire businessman, very successful in his field, ºsophisticated and accomplished. º ºHe claimed to have discovered and practiced a technique for ºseperating from the body and exploring other levels of reality. ºApparently, he had some notable successes in helping others to do the ºsame thing, and he still runs a successful "dream search" business in ºVirginia. º ºThe 1st book chronicles a number of Journeys to areas he labeled ºLevel 1 and Level 2, etc. º ºSkipping over a lot of fascinating material (Monroe makes as good a ºcase for OBE's as you are likely to come across)by the time you are ºreading the 2nd book, you realize that these OBE beings who may be ºhelping M in his explorations are simultaneously showing him that ºthese levels are just more of the same tiresome and confusing ºmelodrama as here below. º ºMonroe might not agree with me, as he clearly has a mission(if you ºcan believe in "missions" at all)to spread knowledge about OBE's and ºthe subtle realms and other rooms available to some of us in "God's ºmansion". But the realms available to him make it quite clear that ºthough exploring them for us may be part of his karmic assignment, º(and a lot of fun, until it grows tiresome), real mystical ºachievement lies elsewhere. º ºAccording to what you can accept, the same argument is certainly ºdramatically incorporated into the last few Castaneda books as well. º ºyours in the bonds, ºeric º º º º º º/join º º º º º ºAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, ºperceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and ºsubside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not ºdifferent than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the ºnature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. ºIt is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the ºFinality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of ºSelf-Knowledge, spont ºaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. º º º ºYour use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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