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on 8/20/02 8:25 AM, viorica_weissman at viorica wrote:

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>

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>> Mazie & i are Devotees of Ramana, and you will often find us

> quoting

>> his wisdom here, along with any other writing that resonates with

> us.

>> The purpose of my quote about quotes was simply a kind of heads-

> up,

>> and the fact that it has stirred so much comment is rather

>> interesting, wouldn't you agree?

>> Please refer to the post "Spiritual Authorities" for further

>> elaboration.

>>

>>

>> LoveAlways,

>>

>> b

>

> dear b,

>

> I still fail to understand what is going on.

> You are quoting yourself ?

> You are the spiritual authority ?

>

> You think about yourself that you are a spiritual

> authority ?

>

> Do you really mean that 'plese refer' to your own post

> or is it a joke ?

>

 

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Any one at anytime can speak with the *athority* of the Self. Since we are

only that, and only when we are being that..

 

Me thinks you have a bit of "profit in his own town" dis-ease! Please look

into it...to be so "only Ramana" is to miss the point completely!

 

I, for one do not wish to only eat spagetti for the rest of my life!

 

Don't make a stupid cult out of the words of truth! We *all* can speak them.

Ramana points to how....

 

love (yet from someone other than RM?)

 

Shawn

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Hi Vicki,

 

Ramana was beaten up by robbers and he bore patiently,

without complaining, even prepared them a meal and you

get annoyed over a few words? You call yourself a

devotee? Do the talking, not the walking?

 

Peace,

Jan

 

On 8/20/02 at 6:45 PM viorica_weissman wrote:

 

ºI am sad when Ramana Maharshi's name is used in vain.

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º/join

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ºAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

ºperceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

ºsubside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

ºdifferent than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the

ºnature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present.

ºIt is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

ºFinality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

ºSelf-Knowledge, spont

ºaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

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ºYour use of is subject to

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on 8/20/02 12:00 PM, viorica_weissman at viorica wrote:

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>> Don't make a stupid cult out of the words of truth!

>

>> love (yet from someone other than RM?)

>>

>> Shawn

>

>

> Is this the list of a Ramana Maharshi devotee ?

>==========

 

Vicki,

 

Cults are stupid in *my* opinion....The people belonging to them tend to get

a little self-righteous....

 

I wasn't aware that one could only quote Ramana on this list....is it true?

 

to quote yourself: (uh- oh, I'm not really going to do this , am I?)

"Ramana didn't like the false teachers .

He could be very angry with falsity ."

 

Would you sugest that *only* Ramana is true...that only he is Love? Do you

wish to make him into some kind of "only begotten son"?

 

The one who sees true and false...is who?

 

If i tell you Ramana lives here *in* me and I in him, will you hang me for

blasphemy? Will you call me egoist?

 

How can such a devotee think such things?

 

Who *are* you? :) where do you cling? Do you see?

 

Is it some kind of saintliness that attracts you?

Does the the truth need to conform to your idea of it?

 

I am truely sorry if you get offended by any of this.

 

Shawn

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Hi Vicky,

 

Getting angry when meeting falsity is something i have been familiar with.

Accepting falsity as a display of ignorance cured that condition and since

then i have a good laugh when faced with it: If ignorance wouldn't be loved

so dearly and unconditionally, there wouldn't be any :-)

Leaving lovers of it alone means discretion isn't it?

 

Peace,

Jan

 

 

On 8/20/02 at 9:56 PM viorica_weissman wrote:

 

ºHi Jan ,

º

º Ramana didn't like the false teachers .

º He could be very angry with falsity .

º

º Peace

º

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º

º> Hi Vicki,

º>

º> Ramana was beaten up by robbers and he bore patiently,

º> without complaining, even prepared them a meal and you

º> get annoyed over a few words? You call yourself a

º> devotee? Do the talking, not the walking?

º>

º> Peace,

º> Jan

º>

º> On 8/20/02 at 6:45 PM viorica_weissman wrote:

º>

º> ºI am sad when Ramana Maharshi's name is used in vain.

º> º

º> º

º> º

º> º

º> º

º> º/join

º> º

º> º

º> º

º> º

º> º

º> ºAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places,

ºsights,

º> ºperceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in

ºand

º> ºsubside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are

ºnot

º> ºdifferent than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are

ºof the

º> ºnature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always

ºPresent.

º> ºIt is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to

ºbe the

º> ºFinality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

º> ºSelf-Knowledge, spont

º> ºaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to

ºa.

º> º

º> º

º> º

º> ºYour use of is subject to

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º/join

º

º

º

º

º

ºAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

ºperceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

ºsubside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

ºdifferent than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the

ºnature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present.

ºIt is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

ºFinality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

ºSelf-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome

ºall to a.

º

º

º

ºYour use of is subject to

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, "eblack101" <EBlackstead@c...> wrote:

> friends,

>

> eric suggests that the vision and meaning assigned to "sunflowers"

> exists in the mind of the beholders. Realization is quite other.

>

> yours in the bonds,

> eric

>

 

Dear Eric:

 

Very well put.

 

Bobby G.

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> , "hrtbeat7" <hrtbeat7> wrote:

> > , "eblack101" <EBlackstead@c...> wrote:

> >

> > >The question is, how many non-quoters have you experienced who

are

> > truly original?

> >

> >

> > )))) Last night we stood in a garden at midnight,

> > staring up into the face of the most splendid sunflowers

> > who eloquently expounded the Perfection of Dharma.

> >

> > Such Darshan is always available when the comparative mind is

> > outshone by the Radiance of this Brilliant Love!

> >

> >

> > LoveAlways,

> >

> > b

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, "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote:

> , "eblack101" <EBlackstead@c...> wrote:

> > friends,

> >

> > eric suggests that the vision and meaning assigned

to "sunflowers"

> > exists in the mind of the beholders. Realization is quite other.

> >

> > yours in the bonds,

> > eric

> >

>

> Dear Eric:

>

> Very well put.

>

> Bobby G.

>

 

 

Kheyala suggests that the vision and meaning assigned

to "realization" exists in the mind of the beholders.

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, "kheyalove" <kheyala@n...> wrote:

> , "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote:

> > , "eblack101" <EBlackstead@c...> wrote:

> > > friends,

> > >

> > > eric suggests that the vision and meaning assigned

> to "sunflowers"

> > > exists in the mind of the beholders. Realization is quite other.

> > >

> > > yours in the bonds,

> > > eric

> > >

> >

> > Dear Eric:

> >

> > Very well put.

> >

> > Bobby G.

> >

>

>

> Kheyala suggests that the vision and meaning assigned

> to "realization" exists in the mind of the beholders.

 

This also is very well put.

 

Love

Bobby G.

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I put all of Vicki's Ramana quotes (and everybody else's Ramana quotes as

well) - after reading - into a special folder... I started doing that years

ago and I still do it. I remember Vicki was a bit "disgruntled" a few years

ago on this as well... , if I remember well she even thought of stopping to

submit quotes...

 

Vicki, "We are what we read" :-)

To see that, one has to be willing to recognize it...

 

Wim

 

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Shawn & Friends,

 

Just a joke, Shawn. Don't work yourself up.

 

yours in the bonds,

eriic

 

 

 

 

, shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

> on 8/20/02 7:57 AM, eblack101 at EBlackstead@c... wrote:

>

> > Quoters & Friends,

> >

> > The chief feature of non-quoters is that they're either 1/ not

well

> > read or 2/truly original or 3/truly delusional.

> >

> > The question is, how many non-quoters have you experienced who are

> > truly original?

> >

> > yours in the bonds,

> > eric

> ===============

>

> Please let's break free of this mind-set. Shall you pit quoters

against non?

> How absurd the mind is! How utterly ridiculous!

>

> How vehement the ego when felt threatened? Who is disappointed? Who

is wants

> this and not that? If Maharshi has taught you anyhting , wake up tp

what you

> ARE....

>

> ....and so now let us fight about unoriginality? Don't be absurd.

LOOK at

> your ego struggle and squirm! I welcome the death throws!

>

> loosen the bonds,

>

> Shawn

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