Respect

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Dear Vicki:

 

Thank you for your perserverance. You understand the heart and that

is what is the most important. IMO there has been a devisiveness on

this list for several weeks. There is a basic disagreement and two

camps (IMO) exist here, one which says you are already there, and one

which says keep applying effort. So far respect for the other has

not been shown. If this list is for all beliefs then respect should

be shown in response to the other even if you disagree.

 

I have seen remarks about serious posts remarked on in an unAdvaitin

(?) manner. (IMO)

 

It was inevitable that someone speak and I applaud you even while I

feel badly that you have had to spend so much time saying what

ultimately had to be said.

 

I will include a post below that I wrote a week ago and I did not

want to post because I felt I did not want to defend against

supercilious remarks or a shift in the frame of reference from the

relative to the absolute. (Non-dual speak)

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Hi everyone:

 

The following is a piece I wrote a few years ago loosely based on

Patanjali III. 1-12.

 

Consciousness:

 

Types: One pointed-Restricted-Enstatic:

 

There are three types of consciousness. One-pointed concentration

gets work done, is healthy, and is evolutionary.

 

Restricted consciousness is when nothing new is occurring.

 

The third type is inner ecstasy or Enstasy, that is, pure objectless

consciousness.

 

Consciousness is truth, that which is real.

 

After a task is completed, One-Pointed Consciousness either shifts

to another use of one-pointedness or shifts to Restricted

Consciousness for thoughts or actions that are habitual and where

nothing new occurs. A sense of newness can be noticed in One-

Pointed. The length of time in this consciousness is to be

lengthened.

 

Consciousness shifts seamlessly between these two types.

 

The Supplying of the consciousness with the proper subliminal

activators to promote evolution aids in the Constraint of

Consciousness. The predicament of the seeker is that traits, drives,

habits emanating from the subconscious because of heredity,

environment, and hormonal keys make thoughts and ideas arise unbidden

into consciousness.

 

Constraining the consciousness is not possible by will alone.

Promote purity and Friendliness.

 

Adopting the best traits (yama-niyama) will counteract the negative.

The presented ideas will then promote evolution. Consciousness can

then be constrained by one of several methods, breath control,

involution (Holding the "I" in the Mind), or surrender to God.

 

Consciousness has three faces; intelligence, memory, and I amness.

These three are like the movie we see on a screen and the

consciousness is like the screen. The movie occupies the attention

until it ends and there is the screen again.

 

The contentless space between thoughts is pure consciousness. It is

the untarnished gem the seeker longs to hold in his grasp.

 

Because the Seeker is a participant in the movie projected upon the

screen of Consciousness that is not possible.

 

Love

Bobby G.

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, "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote:

ends and there is the screen again.

>

> The contentless space between thoughts is pure consciousness. It is

> the untarnished gem the seeker longs to hold in his grasp.

>

> Because the Seeker is a participant in the movie projected upon

the

> screen of Consciousness that is not possible.

 

I agree.

 

Colette

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, "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote:

 

[snip]

> There is a basic disagreement and two camps (IMO) exist here,

> one which says you are already there, and one which says keep

> applying effort.

 

Our being already there shouldn't preclude us from making

the effort. However, what that effort is and how

it manifests may not always be covered in the scriptures.