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Mace:

 

<< Are those who have experienced this truth

> somehow constrained by the freedom

> it grants to not speak it?

 

David:

 

If that were truly

one's experience

what need is there

to speak it...? :) >>

 

Holly:

 

Joy

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, Mace Mealer <mmealer@a...> wrote:

>

>

> david bozzi wrote:

>

> > All may indeed be perfect,

> > but in my experience

> > no one hardly ever experiences it that way

> > in a real, lively non-deluded state.

> >

> > Anyone who tells you that

> > "all is perfect"

> > is telling the truth

> > but with regard

> > to their own personal experience

> > they are lying.

> >

> > Those who truly experience

> > all as perfect

> > do not say it...

>

> If this were so,

> then only those who lie

> have ever said it,

 

Exactly.

 

No less so than

those who claim to know

are equally lying...

> and yet since it is true

> then it has never been a lie,

> and all those who said it have told the truth.

 

False.

>

> Are those who have experienced this truth

> somehow constrained by the freedom

> it grants to not speak it?

 

If that were truly

one's experience

what need is there

to speak it...? :)

> Better perhaps to ask.

> Who does not experience all as perfect?

> And if not, why?

 

Or who deludes oneself

into thinking

all is perfect

when one does not

experience such?

 

Neither is better or worse

or better...

 

David

(head in sand)

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