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The dichotomy suggesting that there are two approaches

to the Truth (gradual versus direct)is illusionary.

 

Vedas declare with authority, "I Am That." Sri Ramana

has said that the Truth of the Self Is Simple and is

within everyone's grasp. However, the spiritual effort

needed in terms of meditation and inquiry to make the

mind subtle and to refine the intellect cannot be

dismissed as trivial. If some people feel that they do

not need such efforts and can grasp the Truth

immediately by hearing Jean Klein give an English

translation of ancient Mahavakyas, that is wonderful

indeed.

 

The state of the Self is natural. Sages called it the

Sahaj state. It means easy and natural. So, you have

to see what is natural for you and what comes natural

to you.

 

Wedded to either the "direct" approach or the

"gradual" approach, one misses the obvious. Both the

"direct" and "gradual" depend on each other for

meaning and have no basis in the Reality of the Self.

The Self Always Is. It is not seen by "another"

directly. Neither is it approached by "another"

gradually. Self Eternally Reveals It Self Alone to It

Self.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

Th

 

 

 

 

"Mark Hovila" <hovila@a...>

Thu Sep 5, 2002 2:02 am

Direct Approach: "You Are the Truth" -- Jean

Klein

 

 

 

 

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"There are basically two known approaches to truth,

the gradual and the direct.

In the direct approach the premise is that you are the

truth, there is nothing

to achieve. Every step to achieve something is going

away from it. The 'path,'

which strictly speaking is not a path from somewhere

to somewhere, is only to

welcome, to be open to the truth, the I am. When you

have once glimpsed your

real nature it solicits you. There is therefore

nothing to do, only be attuned

to it as often as invited. There is not a single

element of volition in this

attuning. It is not the mind which attunes to the I am

but the I am which

absorbs the mind.

"In the gradual approach you are bound to the mind.

The mind is under the

illusion that if it changes, alters states, stops,

etc., it will be absorbed in

what is beyond it. This misconception leads to the

most tragic state in which a

truth-seeker can find himself: he has bound himself in

his own web, a web of

the most subtle duality." -- Jean Klein

 

Inspired by the late Jean Klein, teacher of Advaita

Vedanta (nonduality), this

forum aims to bring together those who have been

touched by the teachings of

Jean Klein, Sri Atmananda (Krishna Menon) and other

expressions of the direct

approach to truth. Please share your questions, your

stories, your pointers to

the Ultimate.

 

The list home page is

DirectApproach/

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

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Perfect Harsha... !!!

 

 

Harsha [harshaimtm]

Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:46 AM

Harsha; ; Advaitin

The False Dichotomy - Direct vs. Gradual

 

 

The dichotomy suggesting that there are two approaches

to the Truth (gradual versus direct)is illusionary.

 

Vedas declare with authority, "I Am That." Sri Ramana

has said that the Truth of the Self Is Simple and is

within everyone's grasp. However, the spiritual effort

needed in terms of meditation and inquiry to make the

mind subtle and to refine the intellect cannot be

dismissed as trivial. If some people feel that they do

not need such efforts and can grasp the Truth

immediately by hearing Jean Klein give an English

translation of ancient Mahavakyas, that is wonderful

indeed.

 

The state of the Self is natural. Sages called it the

Sahaj state. It means easy and natural. So, you have

to see what is natural for you and what comes natural

to you.

 

Wedded to either the "direct" approach or the

"gradual" approach, one misses the obvious. Both the

"direct" and "gradual" depend on each other for

meaning and have no basis in the Reality of the Self.

The Self Always Is. It is not seen by "another"

directly. Neither is it approached by "another"

gradually. Self Eternally Reveals It Self Alone to It

Self.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

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Thank you, Harshaji, the aroma from thine divine feet reacheth the inner

reccesses of my soul or nose or something, sending shivers of divine

knowledge through the collage of my mind. I am making arduous no-effort in

supporting all undermining of dichotomies in the real non dual world and am

happy we can live in a place that some day will allow the yin to be

different and yet supportive of the yang. As gloria says,...in the face of

the loving master, even the great pearls of wisdom drop like pig doo-doo.

Well, perhaps those weren't exactly her words!

 

"After many months of extreme effort, I suddenly reached the summit of the

mountain and proclaimed the last step to be the most important one, although

in retrospect I expect that the first was every bit as important."

 

" I now know that to get to the other side, it may have been as easy to go

around."

--a famous mountain climber

 

Love Shawn

 

 

on 9/5/02 7:46 AM, Harsha at harshaimtm wrote:

> The dichotomy suggesting that there are two approaches

> to the Truth (gradual versus direct)is illusionary.

>

> Vedas declare with authority, "I Am That." Sri Ramana

> has said that the Truth of the Self Is Simple and is

> within everyone's grasp. However, the spiritual effort

> needed in terms of meditation and inquiry to make the

> mind subtle and to refine the intellect cannot be

> dismissed as trivial. If some people feel that they do

> not need such efforts and can grasp the Truth

> immediately by hearing Jean Klein give an English

> translation of ancient Mahavakyas, that is wonderful

> indeed.

>

> The state of the Self is natural. Sages called it the

> Sahaj state. It means easy and natural. So, you have

> to see what is natural for you and what comes natural

> to you.

>

> Wedded to either the "direct" approach or the

> "gradual" approach, one misses the obvious. Both the

> "direct" and "gradual" depend on each other for

> meaning and have no basis in the Reality of the Self.

> The Self Always Is. It is not seen by "another"

> directly. Neither is it approached by "another"

> gradually. Self Eternally Reveals It Self Alone to It

> Self.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

>

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on 9/5/02 9:07 AM, shawn at shawn wrote:

>

> "After many months of extreme effort, I suddenly reached the summit of the

> mountain and proclaimed the last step to be the most important one, although

> in retrospect I expect that the first was every bit as important."

>

> " I now know that to get to the other side, it may have been as easy to go

> around."

> --a famous mountain climber

 

It should be remembered that the mountain climber later said if forced to

make the desicion, step # 4,572 would, hands down, stand out as the critical

and most auspicious step....

 

( and so, one should never skip this all important step! )

 

- Shawn

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Thank you Wim. One Heart Speaks to Itself and Feels It Self. We are

all One Heart!

 

And Shawn, Shawn, Shawn. Thanks for your kind and really funny and

profound comments and good humor. I am glad you and Bobby have come

to appreicate each other more (I can be funny too! :-). Hey, I love

you guys.

 

Kheyala, congratulations on the baby boy! As you can see from

everyone's sentiments, the Sangha is thrilled to have you here and

share this beautiful adventure with us. Best wishes to you and your

family.

 

I really loved that post Gloria from Nisgradatta about Staying in the

Self, cherishing the Self, and being harmless to others as the

highest form of yoga.

 

Thanks for all the feeling of friendship, amity, and good humor,

kindness, and love in this Sangha. I feel much gratitude.

 

Love to all

Harsha

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Dear Harsha and friends,

 

I'm busy organizing another tour through the USA, also doing a lot of work

on the house, so my wife does not have to worry about anything while I'm

away....

Is that why I'm not writing as much...? Not that anybody cared... :-)))

I did some nice discoveries about language recently, pretty novel stuff, ...

well you guys know I love language... Maybe next year I will write about it

in more detail... I'll be busy in the meantime travelling...

 

The schedule will be on my website soon, same places as what shows now, but

different dates...

 

All the best to each one of you and everyone altogether...or as Harsha says

for all of us "One Heart Speaks to Itself and Feels It Self. We are all One

Heart!"

 

Love you,

Wim

 

 

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