Guest guest Posted September 6, 2002 Report Share Posted September 6, 2002 At the beginning of October 1978 Sarada's sister, who lived in Bangalore, became ill and Sarada was asked to go and look after her for a few days. She left on the 18th, planning to spend only a few days there, but her sister's was asked to go and look after her for a few days. She left on the 18th, planning to spend only a few days there, but her sister's condition did not improve and she was unable to return to Swamy until December. Despite the distance between them, her contact with Swamy was still strong. At the end of November she dreamt of Swamy, and even though she opened her eyes and woke up, his image was still there. At the time that Sarada was waking from her dream, Swamy was asleep in his room in the ashram. He says that he 'saw' Sarada in her room at that moment, even though physically he was more than 300 kms. away. That was not the first time that an image of Swamy had materialized before Sarada. In 1975 she had been asleep in Swamy's house, dreaming that she was having his darshan. When she woke up the image of Swamy was still there. It stood up, walked though a closed door, and went into the room where Swamy was sleeping. A similar thing happened a year later: Sarada woke up and saw Swamy sitting on a sofa. This time the image got up, went to his bed and lay down. On both occasions Swamy was fast asleep when the image of him appeared. As Sarada was telling me that Swamy remarked, " The Self may take any form. Sarada was thinking and dreaming of me so it took that particular form." It was during her stay in Bangalore that Sarada first started to go into kevala nirvikalpa samadhi. She says that at first she had not idea what these state were; the first few times that it happened she thought that she was only falling into a very pleasant sleep. In between these states her mind, which had been quiet and relatively thought-free for several months, suddenly started getting some very strong desires. During all her years with Swamy she had only ever had one or two cheap outfits to wear, and she had never paid much attention to her personal appearance. Now, in Bangalore, she suddenly started to look at her sister's expensive clothes with a strong desire to be dressed in a similar way. At one point her mind even developed a strong craving for siddhis, Sarada watched these desires with great interest, but she never made any attempt to fulfill them. She says that for the last few months of that year she was in a completely detached state. This enables her to witness all her thoughts, desires and emotions dispassionately, without ever becoming involved in them. In the last few weeks that she was in Bangalore she spent nearly all her time either in a thought free state, or in a state of samadhi. She stopped meditation on Swamy, stopped performing puja to his picture, and spent many hours of each day lying on her bed. Her sister thought that she was just being lazy; on one occasion she told Sarada, 'You live in an ashram, and you are supposed to be a devotee, but you don't meditate any more and you have stopped doing puja. What kind of devotee are you? You just lie on your bed all day and do nothing." When the remark was make, Sarada was so deeply immersed in on of her thought-free states that she was incapable of either explaining what was happening to her, or of giving any kind of answer at all. When Deepam day arrived that year. Sarada roused herself from her thought-free state and celebrated the festival by drawing a picture of Arunachala; she put Swamy's picture and a symbolic light on top if it. As she concentrated on Swamy and Arunachala she entered a thought-free state again; her mind subsided into the Heart and she had a temporary experience of the Self. The following day she decided that she could not stay in Bangalore any longer and she told her sister that she had to see Swamy urgently. She says that during all the time that she was in Bangalor the world has appeared to her as if it was a dream. With a desire to see Swamy uppermost in her mind she decided that the dream had to end. However, her sister had not fully recovered from her illness and this prevented her from leaving for another three days; she was not able to leave for Gudur until the evening of the 16th. She returned to Gudur by bus and spent most of the journey in a state of samadhi, or near Samadhi. This was rather inconvenient because she had to change buses in Tirupati. She was conscious enough to get off the bus there with her bag, but then she relapsed into a thought-free state again. A friendly fellow-traveler found her some time later, standing by the side of the road, staring vacantly into space. When he discovered that Sarada was heading for Gudur into space. When he discovered that Sarada was heading for Gudur he put her on the correct bus. Sarada stayed conscious long enough to pay her fare and then relapsed into a full samadhi state for the remainder of the three-hour trip. She was met by her family in Gudur and escorted to their house. They tried to entertain her by telling her all the latest news and gossip, but she was unable to keep her attention on what hey were saying, and she was unable to make any kind of reply herself. Eventually her family just assumed that she was very tired and let her go to bed. The next morning at 10 a.m., she went to the ashram sat down in front of Swamy and tried to tell him about the thought-free states that she had been experiencing. She was still deeply immersed in such a state and she found it hard to speak. Swamy tried to engage her attention by telling her about a few of the events that had been going on in the ashram in her absence, but Sarada couldn't concentrate on anything he said. When she told Swamy that she wasn't capable of paying attention he stopped trying to engage her in conversation. He had been watching her intently ever since she arrived and the could see that the Self was trying to pull the 'I'- thought towards it. A few minutes later a party of visitors came to look at the ashram. Swamy went into this house because he didn't want to see them, but Sarada remained sitting on her veranda. She remained there for the next two hours, immersed in a state of kevala nirvikalpa samadhi. Sometimes her eyes were half open, but she won't aware of seeing anything because her mind had completely subsided into the Heart. When she kept her eyes open for any length of time the 'I' thought would rise from the Heart to the brain, but Sarada soon discovered that she could easily make it subside again by closing her eyes. At about midday Bala brought swamy and Sarada some food. Swamy called Sarada into the house because he thought that she should have something to eat, but Sarada found that she was incapable of moving by herself. Eventually, Bala and Swamy had to help her into the house. Sarada found it very difficult to eat; the first time she tried she only managed to lift her hand half-way to her mouth. After a few false starts, and with Swamy's help, she finally managed to swallow a little food and drink a little water. She spent the rest of the day and all of the following night, in samadhi. During the course of the day Swamy helped her to walk up and down his veranda a few times, but for the rest of the time he allowed her to remain undisturbed. #2 The next morning she came out of samadhi with a strong awareness that her 'I'-thought was still existing. She remembered the peace of the previous day and night when she had been in samadhi, with the 'I'- thought temporarily gone, and she decided to see if she could enter the same state again. She closed her eyes and within a few minutes her 'I'-thought subsided into the Heart and she went back into samadhi again. The 'I'-thought emerged from the Heart several times during the day, but each time it subsided Sarada was convinced that she had realized the Self. She was still able to talk and Swamy, thinking that her realization was near, placed a small tape-recorder near her to record her words. Sarada spoke in short, quiet sentences, with frequent pauses as she was overwhelmed by the bliss of the Self. "I have no body. I have no 'I'. I am not the body. How I am talking I do not know. Some power is talking through me". Swamy asked her if she was looking and she replied: "Even though I am looking, I am not looking . Where is the 'I' to look. When the mind enters the Heart there is no 'I' to tell that there is no 'I'. My 'I' is dead". Swamy then asked her how she was feeling. "My whole body is filled with peace and bliss. I cannot describe it. Everything is filled with peace. The Self is pulling me towards it and I am not able to open my eyes. The whole body is weak." Swamy remarked, 'It is like elephant entering a weak hut. The hut cannot stand the strain. Is it beyond time and death? "It is beyond time and death as there is no mind. As the 'I' is dead I don't wish to eat anymore. I am not able to eat. However tasty the food I cannot eat. I have no desire to eat. Everything is filled with peace and bliss. I am content with my realization. I have recognized my own Self, so I am content". Swamy then told her that her 'I' was not yet dead and that she had not yet reached the final state. Sarada replied: " As the 'I' is dead there is no you. "Have you no mother or father?' asked Swamy. " No father , no mother, no world. Everything is peace and bliss. Why do I have to eat when there is no 'I'? The body is inert, it cannot eat. A corpse will not eat. It is like that because the 'I' is dead. As I cannot eat I cannot talk. Who is talking I do not know. "Then who is talking?' asked Swamy. Sarada remained silent and so Swamy answered his own question. "The Self is talking." Sarada continued: "Even though am seeing, I am not seeing. Even though I am talking I am not talking. Whatever I do I am not doing it because the 'I' is dead. I have no body. All the nerves are filled with peace and bliss. All is Brahman. All is bliss. In the veins instead of blood, love and bliss are flowing. A great power has entered into me. Three months before Swamy had told Sarada, "Even though I sleep I am not sleeping". Sarada remembered this, repeated Swamy's words and said that she was finally able to understand what he had meant. Sarada continued to talk: "I have no thought of doing anything. I have no fear of death. Before, I feared death, but not anymore. I don't care about death. I have nothing more to do. I shall give up the body". Swamy asked her to stay but Sarada answered: "what is death to die now? The body is inert, how can it die? Why then fear death? #3 Continued from #2 No Mind I Am The Self..David Godman Swamy then reminded her that her 'I' was not dead and that she was not yet in the final sahaja state. Swamy then stopped the tape we were listening to and talked a little about the state that Sarada was experiencing when she spoke these words. "Anyone whose mind completely subsides into the Heart for short time can talk like an enlightened person. Their experience of the Self is the same as that of a realized person. However, their 'I'- thought is not dead and it is likely to re-emerge at any time. Such an experience is not the final state because it is not permanent." He then played the final portion of Sarada's comments on her experience. "I am everywhere. I am not the body. I have no body so I have no fear. I am immobile. What ever I may do I am immobile. I am shining as the Self. Everything is a great void {mahasunya}. No one can describe what it is. In the past, present and future no one can describe what it is. It is difficult to describe. Self is Self, that is all. Throughout that day Sarada's mind kept sinking into the Self, but on each occasion it came out again. At 4 p.m. the 'I'-thought went from the Heart to the brain and started to bang against the inside of her skull. Sarada said later that it was like an axe trying to split her head open for the inside. Since she was not able to bear the pain she came forward, took Swamy's hand and placed it on her head. The 'I'-thought went back to the heart, but again it was only a temporary subsidence. Three minutes later it rose again and once again started to bag against the inside of her skull. Sarada came forward, placed here head on Swamy's feet and a few seconds later the 'I'-thought returned to its source and died forever. With her 'I'-thought permanently gone Sarada had realized the Self. Swamy says that in the final few minutes her 'I'-thought was trying to escape and take birth again, and that had he not been present, the 'I'-thought would have killed her and escaped. In the first few minutes after realization Swamy thought that Sarada was going to give up her body. Her arms and legs went stiff and cold and her blood circulation stopped. Swamy shook her to try and revive her, but she was unable to open her eyes. It occurred to Swamy that if she did give up the body, not only would her family be very angry with him, but he might even be arrested for murder. Eventually he took her to her parent's house in Gudur, but it took five days before Sarada was able to sustain consciousness of her body far any length of time. Throughout this period she was continually saying that she wanted to give up the body, and Swamy had to use all his powers of persuasion to keep her alive. Swamy gave her the new name of Mathru Sri Sarada; Mathru means mother and sri is an honorific prefix. he was most anxious that she stay in the body because he felt that she could offer invaluable help to devotees who were seeking the Self. However, he had great difficulty in keeping her alive; Sarada continued to show no interest in retaining her body and for the next twelve months Swamy was engaged in a daily battle to keep her in contact with the world. Almost every day Sarada would lose body consciousness and withdraw into the Self. Each time she did it she would say that she no longer wanted her body and that she was going to give it up. Each time Swamy would have to revive her to keep her alive. His strategy was to try and get her interested in the outer world so that her body consciousness could be sustained. It was a difficult task Sarada was now completely without thought and this made it almost impossible to interest her in anything. It was only her continuing love for Swamy that kept her alive. Each time she tried to carry out her plan to give up the body, tears would come to his eyes and he would be her to stay. When this happened she would feel such love for him that she would be no longer capable of severing her link with the body and the world. Swamy kept her busy by making her play with dolls and by making her construct miniature parks and gardens in the compound. Even though she wanted to obey Swamy's orders she was unable to keep her attention on these play activities for more than a few minutes at a time. The futility of all human activity would suddenly strike her and she would again announce to Swamy that she wanted to give up her body. After about a year the tide began to turn. The intervals between Sarada's periodic withdrawals into the Self became longer and longer and she finally began to be capable of keeping her attention on the mundane events of everyday life. No Mind I Am The Self Saradamma frequently stresses that the Self cannot be described in words, but on many occasions she tries to describe the indescribable. The first account in this chapter was written by Saradamma herself in Telugu only tens days after her realization. It is a glowing account of the jnani's experience of the Self. Saradamma: When I opened my eyes after realization there was only peace inside and out. I know that I was the Self and that when I uttered the word 'I'. this 'I' meant only the Self. Even though I may see, I am not seeing ; even though I may hear, I am not hearing ; even though I may talk I am not talking. When I wake up I am not really waking and when I sleep I am not really sleeping. Sleep, waking and dream are passing before the Self but they cannot touch it. Whatever I may do I am not doing it. I have no sin and no virtue, no sleep and no waking, for I am always in the state of sahaja samadhi. Whatever I may do I am always in that state. If there is a mind then there is a world. If there is no mind then there is no world and no body. There is nothing except the Self and the Self has no name and no form, It is eternal peace, I am ever content. I have been able to gain the most valuable thing in the world, for all the riches in the world cannot buy or balance the Self. Even though I did not know that it was possible to get it I attained it, for without my knowing it, the Self killed the 'I'. Everything is the Self and nothing is apart from it; this is my experience and I do not slip from that state. I am shining as the Self and there is no doubt about my experience. Editors note: Since her Self-realization Saradamma's link with her body and the world has been very tenuous and unstable; on many occasions she has withdrawn into the Self and completely lost bodily and worldly consciousness. She calls these withdrawals 'going into samadhi'. Because of the misleading connotation of the word samadhi, I have substituted the expression 'Self-absorption in the following description of these periodic withdrawals. Saradamma: Although my experience of the Self never varies, sometimes awareness of the body and the world fluctuates. I have no interest in keeping this body and sometimes I go into a state of complete Self- absorption where the body and the world cease to exist. This body is a useless appendage for me. The Self does not need a body and sometimes the feeling arises, "Why should I keep it anymore? Everyday it needs feeding, washing and clothing. It is a sick weak body, full of pain. Why should I prolong its existence?' When these feelings about the body arise, or when there is a great pain, then I withdraw into the Self. Sometimes I also do it if I am by myself and I feel and urge to dive deep into the peace and bliss of the Self. On these occasions I close my eyes. Then I direct attention within and there is a feeling that I can only describe as 'closing up'. I cannot describe either the process or the experience even in Telugu because one who has not realized the self cannot possibly understand it. There are several stages of level of absorption which I can withdraw to. In the first few stages there is a partial loss of body consciousness and the body feels like an inert lump of stone. All pain and touch sensations disappear but I can still hear what people are saying, and with little effort I can still manage to speak to them. In these first few levels it is relatively easy to open the eyes and resume normal body consciousness again, but as I withdraw more and more, it gets progressively more and more difficult to reverse the process. After a long or deep period of Self-absorption it is sometimes very difficult to open the eyes and direct attention outwards rather than inwards; it often takes may attempts before I finally succeed. These periods of Self-absorption are so attractive that Swamy often has to plead with me to get me to come out of them. he knows that If I stay in this state for a long time there is a possibility that I might give up the body. The experience of peace, bliss and self-sufficiency is the same whether I am absorbed in the Self or not, but when I am freed from the shackles of the body, and when I know that in that state I need nothing, I am often most unwilling to resume body consciousness again. The experience of the self #2 Saradamma usually describes her experiences of the Self by using such words as `peace', `bliss' and `love'. In the following brief exchange she reaffirms that her experience of the Self is continuous and asserts that its real nature is peace and bliss. Saradamma: I am always shining as the Self. I am always peace and bliss and nothing can shake me from that state. If I appear to be angry or sad it is so only in the eyes of other people. To me these images are merely emotions which appear and disappear on the screen of the ever-peaceful Self. Question: Do you always experience the bliss of the Self, the ananda? Saradamma: Always! Always! In fact I don't experience it, I am it. I am that ananda, it is I. In this quotation Saradamma makes a brief reference to her emotional states. When she elaborates on this theme she says that the Self has no emotions of its own and that her apparent emotions are merely reflection of the feelings of people around her. In the two quotations which follow she first explains how this reflecting process works and then goes on to talk about her real nature, which is pure love. Saradamma: I am just a mirror that reflects and magnifies what is going on around me. If people are a little angry with me then I am very angry with them. If people give me a little love, then a great flow of love goes back in return. It is not ordinary love, it is the power of the Self; whoever receives it is purified by it. When a devotee thinks of me in a loving way I am immediately aware of it, distance does not matter. I do not choose whom to love or how much love to give. The amount of love I send out depends entirely on the amount of love I am given. Ramana Maharshi once said that the grace of the Self is like an infinite ocean. If you approach the ocean with a cup, you can only take away a cupful; if you approach it with a bucket you can only take away a bucketful. This is exactly how it is with me. I am willing to give full love to anyone who wants it, but the devotee must initiate the process by loving me first. The Self does not choose whom to love; it only gives love to those who love it. It is the nature of the Self that is always gives more love than it receives. Sometimes, giving so much love causes a weakness in the body. At times I have found myself saying. " Arunachala, why do you make me love this person?', but I cannot stop the flow. If a devotee really loves me then that love causes the grace of the Self to flow. Saradamma: It is my nature to love. I am love itself. I am overflowing with love and I want love and I want to give it all the time. I cannot stop myself from giving this love. Swamy sometimes tell me to be careful; he says that devotees who tell me that they love me this year may have completely forgotten about me by the following year. I know from my own experience that this it true, but even with Swamy's words `Be careful' ringing in my ears, I cannot stop the love from flowing. When she is talking about the Self Saradamma often calls it `the Heart'. Usually she uses this term as a synonym for the Self but sometimes she also uses it to indicate the Heart-center on the right side of the chest. This center is the one which Swamy spoke about as being the source of the `I'-thought. In the following conversations she talks about this center and her experience of it both before and after her Self-realization. Question: I heard Swamy talking about your experience of the Heart- center. Was this permanent and how did it affect you afterwards? Saradamma: When the mind dies in the heart it is dead forever. It never rises again. I cannot say what my experience of this state is because it cannot be described in words. But I can say a little about how this affected me. There are now no worries, no fears and no desires; the experience itself I cannot describe. Before Self-realization I sometimes went into samadhi. As I went into and came out of these states there was an awareness of the Heart- center on the right side of the chest. However, since realization, I know that the Heart cannot be located in the body. The Heart in the Self and it is immanent in all things. It is the source of everything and it is neither inside the body nor outside. It is everywhere. Saradamma: Just before my Self-realization I was aware of the `I' thought going up and down form the head to the Heart-center. It went up and down in a flash but I was still aware of it happening. When my eyes were closed the `I' would go back to the Heart-center, but as soon as I opened my eyes it would rush up to the brain again. When the `I' went back temporarily into the Heart-center there was a feeling of constriction and tightness here [saradamma clenched her fist and put it on the bottom right-hand side of her chest as she was saying this]. There was also an intense prickly feeling as if hundreds of ants were running around in the vicinity of the Heart- center. When the `I finally died the feeling of constriction and prickliness stopped and was replaced by an overwhelming feeling of emptiness, openness, peace and bliss. I know immediately that my `I' had died forever, and that's why I wanted to give up the body. I know that nothing mattered anymore because I had realized the Self. "Many spiritual seekers get "stuck" in emptiness, in the absolute, in transcendence. They cling to bliss, or peace, or indifference. When the self-centered motivation for living disappears, many seekers become indifferent. They see the perfection of all existence and find no reason for doing anything, including caring for themselves or others. I call this "taking a false refuge." It is a very subtle egoic trap; it's a fixation in the absolute and all unconscious form of attachment that masquerades as liberation. It can be very difficult to wake someone up from this deceptive fixation because they literally have no motivation to let go of it. Stuck in a form of divine indifference, such people believe they have reached the top of the mountain when actually they are hiding out halfway up its slope." ~ Adyashanti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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