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Drew, Hur and Eric B.,

 

Restating: when the guru is You, and there is no you, who is knowing?

 

Hur, you seem to differ on Eric's path to knowing, Spiritual Grace.

your own standing away clearly points as much to Duality as you

seem to be perceiving.

 

"You are an ocean of compassion

You are the sustainer

I am the servant, you the Lord

Grant me your grace

Hail to the Lord of the Universe"

 

~dedication from By His Grace, A Devotee's Story by Surhir Mukerjee,

pub. Hanuman Foundation, 1990.

 

Shirdi Sai Baba might be a better example

of an Advaita-Guru, but it seems you're just

slicing straws here anyway...

 

wheat from chaff, so to speak.

 

eric

 

 

 

 

On Saturday, September 14, 2002, at 11:28 AM, drew hempel wrote:

> Hur have you read the biography of Neem Karola Baba?  Also I just saw

> "Fierce Grace" the biography movie on Ram Dass.  drew

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>  Hur Guler wrote:

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> NondualitySalon, "eblack101" wrote:

> > eric answers: Obviously, my name isn't particularly important.

> > Grace,

> > quite clearly, is.

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> then you consider Grace as a conscious power separate from yourself?

> while your name, your separate self is not worthy of capping but

> Grace is. if so, this is dualism 101.

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> > Is Ramana an advaitic guru?

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> yes. why do you ask? you don't believe ramana is an advaitic guru?

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> > he just readjusted and refocused a woman's sadhana,

> > do you understand? Yes or no?

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> ramana did not prescribe the woman to worship him in the first

> place. there was no sadhana/practice prescribed to her. ramana is

> simply doing what all the advaita gurus do, pointing her true

> identity. it's not a matter of practice, teaching, grace, method but

> pointing one to one's true identity.

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> > since you! 've asked me so many questions, let me ask you one. Are

> you

> > still in kindergarten?

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> eric, you may believe yourself at an advanced stage of some spiritual

> path but whatever that is, it's not advaita/nonduality. it's fine

> whatever you believe in but i hope you realize it's not

> advaita/nonduality. for example you stated, "at any one time, the

> Guru knows what is appropriate for the student..."

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> now seriously, where do you get this from? maybe you're talking about

> psychic gurus like ram dass' guru neem karoli baba. mind you, there

> is nothing wrong with gurus like ram dass and neem karoli baba but

> that's a little different than advaita. advaita gurus are not

> concerned with the seekers' personal issues since they know the

> problem is not personal.

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