Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Thanks Felix. You make a powerful statement and I will pass this on to as well. I don't know whether the Internet can replace the need for human contact and friendship. Probably the gurus will continue, as there is evidently a demand for their services. What the Internet does very well is expose people to many different perspectives on topics like gurus. I have both my pro-guru and anti-guru moments and I really enjoy them both. I know some people coming into a cyber community are shocked to find out that there favorite guru is considered a pompous ignorant jerk by many. Others may be surprised to see that someone they consider to be fraud and a fake is revered by many. Human thought is so diverse and the Internet highlights it in real time in such a way that it's hard to ignore. It can be strange but a lot of fun as well if one does not get too caught up in it. Love to all Harsha --- felix <felix wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) > Harsha <harshaimtm wrote: > > > Just wondering about lines and honor today. > > > > What does it mean? > > > > Love to all > > Harsha > > Hi Harsha, > > I'd like to get in line with other people who have > declared > great symbolic entities "dead". I'm probably not the > first > to make this statement, but I'm gone say it anyway: > > THE GURU IS DEAD!!! Long live the guru. > > The real guru now is the Internet. Notice that I > captilized. > I have been participating on another discussion > list, and > previous to that, another discussion list, and > previous to > that... > > There was definitely something strange going on > behind the > scenes of this other group I write with. Somebody > came on > the list and started insulting the writers. Very > low-brow > approach with language to match. The moderators > kicked them > off. They created another identity with another > e-mail address, and continued their assault. > They went off-list to > send pornography to list members as if it came from > other > list members they were struggling with. This > activity was > causing major dissention among the list members, as > you can > imagine. > > Then, one day this entity used a word I couldn't > find in my > unabridged dictionary. It seemed like a well-formed > word and > it's absence from the unabridged puzzled me. So, I > "googled > it up" and low and behold there were only four > entries on > the entire Internet. Three of them belonged to the > same > source, and when I read the material, other favorite > words > of this mysterious interloper kept showing up. It > turned out > that this person possessed an enviable education > from > probably the most renown university in the world, > and a > search of his name turned up accolades of high honor > from > around the world. He is even listed as a Sage and > Guru of > considerable esteem. How quaint. > > As Jerry stated in his response to me, "everybody > can learn > from everybody." The question of whether there are > internet > gurus is moot. Nobody needs a particular somebody to > learn > from. Seemingly, every word that has ever been > recorded by > any teacher of any age, either by themselves or > their > disciples is available in some language. Soon > enough, they > will be available in any language for anybody to > read, and > God gnows the billions of words that will be added > by any > Tom, Dick, or Harry who ever had what they consider > to be an unusual experience. > > Imagine that! Not having to learn Sanskrit only to > find out > that the essence of what is being so mysteriously > offered > under the cover of some exotic ancient language has > been > surpassed a thousand times in one's own native > language, and > with more color and pizzazz. > > What will happen to the gurus? Can they survive the > Internet? Probably, but I think the lines will be > considerably shorter, and finally extinquished. > > felix ===== /join New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 on 9/19/02 6:39 AM, Harsha at harshaimtm wrote: > Thanks Felix. You make a powerful statement and I will > pass this on to as well. > > I don't know whether the Internet can replace the need > for human contact and friendship. Probably the gurus > will continue, as there is evidently a demand for > their services. > > What the Internet does very well is expose people to > many different perspectives on topics like gurus. I > have both my pro-guru and anti-guru moments and I > really enjoy them both. > > I know some people coming into a cyber community are > shocked to find out that there favorite guru is > considered a pompous ignorant jerk by many. > > Others may be surprised to see that someone they > consider to be fraud and a fake is revered by many. > > Human thought is so diverse and the Internet > highlights it in real time in such a way that it's > hard to ignore. > > It can be strange but a lot of fun as well if one does > not get too caught up in it. > > Love to all > Harsha yes, who likes and dislikes? Like flowers, some (gurus) stink and some smell wonderful...*who* decides? shawn > --- felix <felix wrote: >> >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) >> Harsha <harshaimtm wrote: >> >>> Just wondering about lines and honor today. >>> >>> What does it mean? >>> >>> Love to all >>> Harsha >> >> Hi Harsha, >> >> I'd like to get in line with other people who have >> declared >> great symbolic entities "dead". I'm probably not the >> first >> to make this statement, but I'm gone say it anyway: >> >> THE GURU IS DEAD!!! Long live the guru. >> >> The real guru now is the Internet. Notice that I >> captilized. >> I have been participating on another discussion >> list, and >> previous to that, another discussion list, and >> previous to >> that... >> >> There was definitely something strange going on >> behind the >> scenes of this other group I write with. Somebody >> came on >> the list and started insulting the writers. Very >> low-brow >> approach with language to match. The moderators >> kicked them >> off. They created another identity with another >> e-mail address, and continued their assault. >> They went off-list to >> send pornography to list members as if it came from >> other >> list members they were struggling with. This >> activity was >> causing major dissention among the list members, as >> you can >> imagine. >> >> Then, one day this entity used a word I couldn't >> find in my >> unabridged dictionary. It seemed like a well-formed >> word and >> it's absence from the unabridged puzzled me. So, I >> "googled >> it up" and low and behold there were only four >> entries on >> the entire Internet. Three of them belonged to the >> same >> source, and when I read the material, other favorite >> words >> of this mysterious interloper kept showing up. It >> turned out >> that this person possessed an enviable education >> from >> probably the most renown university in the world, >> and a >> search of his name turned up accolades of high honor >> from >> around the world. He is even listed as a Sage and >> Guru of >> considerable esteem. How quaint. >> >> As Jerry stated in his response to me, "everybody >> can learn >> from everybody." The question of whether there are >> internet >> gurus is moot. Nobody needs a particular somebody to >> learn >> from. Seemingly, every word that has ever been >> recorded by >> any teacher of any age, either by themselves or >> their >> disciples is available in some language. Soon >> enough, they >> will be available in any language for anybody to >> read, and >> God gnows the billions of words that will be added >> by any >> Tom, Dick, or Harry who ever had what they consider >> to be an unusual experience. >> >> Imagine that! Not having to learn Sanskrit only to >> find out >> that the essence of what is being so mysteriously >> offered >> under the cover of some exotic ancient language has >> been >> surpassed a thousand times in one's own native >> language, and >> with more color and pizzazz. >> >> What will happen to the gurus? Can they survive the >> Internet? Probably, but I think the lines will be >> considerably shorter, and finally extinquished. >> >> felix Spoken like one who has decided he doesn't care for a particular flower! But of lines...I used to frequent a certain coffee shop in Seattle. It was very popular (and before the rise of the Starbuck Empire) and one could always expect a long line to get ones latte. There was a quote on the wall there and I'm sorry but I can't recall the prophet's name, though the line (no pun intended) has stuck: In heaven, there shall be no coffee, and consequently no waiting for it. love Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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