Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 on 9/25/02 12:30 PM, Wim Borsboom at wim wrote: > > Is it really worth holding on to any belief? Does it make one see and love > the other more when one does? > > Wim ============ Wim, did you look up "analyse?" Would you? I really do want to know! Wimji, I think you're a mighty fine fellow and I was thinking about a painting I did a while back of a ripe papaya. Since coming to live here, it has by far become a favorite...the papaya...what about "ripe" and "rot?" ....and I was watching thoughts drift about ripeness and about how people get ripe....about the wonder full smell that comes with a ripe fruit. We say," boy, are *you* ripe when someone near is sweaty and giving off lots of B-O.... how ripeness goes to rot and then the fruit,,..well just turns to garbage and compost, perhaps to release new life from seed....in Saniel Bonder's way of teaching, he describes the ripe person...it is a person tired of his own game, rotting to himself...it is not a negative thing at all, I see now how it is a truely beautiful lack of ...what's the word impetus...yes, no more resistance, surrendering is the complete undermining of all striving...even the act of attention seems so burdensome when there "me" behind it...the relaxing that takes place...a squeezing between head and heart a sweet pressure, my face feels like....I'm wearing my heart on my face...I guess I can't con me anymore. :-) People get ripe. I want to thank everyone for playing their part so well..hahahah love to all, Shawn Attachment: [not stored] Attachment: [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Dear Shawn, You wrote: >>> Wim, did you look up "analyse?" Would you?<<< I will work at this Shawn... but right off the bat I am happy (not sure if it makes you happy) that I can tell you that "analysis" has nothing directly to do with anus. If there is an indirect connection it could be as follows: the Latin "anus" may come from the Greek "ana", which can mean "from", "backward" or "without". Well..., anus has to do with elimination from the back, so that solves that. (I have some 200 year old Greek/Latin etymology books, they are stashed away at the moment... but I’m sure that I am on the right track.) The "lyse" part comes from the Greek “luo”, which provides the root for the English “loose” and “lose” (the Sanskrit root is LU or LUS, loose). Hmm “loose stool” maybe? :-))) So “analyse” means taking things apart in a reverse fashion... Originally it had to do with a physical procedure, like retracing manufacturing steps in order to repair a faulty of damaged object or product. It is only later that the word started to take on a more abstract meaning. Ah, and Shawn, so nice your ruminations on the theme of “ripeness”. That about BO... there is something nice about it... :-) As you know, in India one does not clean the body the same way we do here, the idea of hygiene is different... Now it happens that when certain body bacteria do their work well, a certain BO turns into a smell of ripeness... sweetness, fruity even... alcohol like... (Interesting note for women, vaginal yeast infection is related although way less comfortable...) On the sweet note, .might that be the reason why some Hindu spiritual masters smelled sweet? Being the (fruity) one that I am, I actually personally experimented with that notion:-) - oh my poor wife - but lo and behold... at some point she actually said to me, “You smell so sweet... how come?” I did explain... It was a temporary experiment so I am back to smelling Western again... squeaky clean... >>>love to all<<< Yes, absolutely Shawn. PS. Shawn, do you write to Valerie? You guys knew each other didn’t you? /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release 9/9/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release 9/9/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hmm, Papayas..., where you live Shawn, can you pick them, just like that??? Wim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release 9/9/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Shawn is living in Hawaii, unless the E-mail header is forged. ;-) Jan On 9/26/02 at 12:25 PM Wim Borsboom wrote: ºHmm, Papayas..., where you live Shawn, can you pick them, just like ºthat??? º ºWim º º--- ºOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free. ºChecked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). ºVersion: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release 9/9/2002 º º º º/join º º º º º ºAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, ºperceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and ºsubside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not ºdifferent than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the ºnature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. ºIt is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the ºFinality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of ºSelf-Knowledge, spont ºaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. º º º ºYour use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Of course... Aloha... dang it Wim ecirada [janb (AT) axarnet (DOT) com] Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:51 PM RE: Ripeness Shawn is living in Hawaii, unless the E-mail header is forged. ;-) Jan On 9/26/02 at 12:25 PM Wim Borsboom wrote: :Hmm, Papayas..., where you live Shawn, can you pick them, just like :that??? : :Wim : :--- :Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. :Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). :Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release 9/9/2002 : : : :/join : : : : : :All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, :perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and :subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not :different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the :nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. :It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the :Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of :Self-Knowledge, spont :aneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. : : : :Your use of is subject to ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click./J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/bpSolB/TM ---~-> /join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Your use of is subject to --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release 9/9/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 on 9/26/02 9:25 AM, Wim Borsboom at wim wrote: > Hmm, Papayas..., where you live Shawn, can you pick them, just like that??? > > Wim Yes Wim, papaya farms even. But I must keep to my friends' yards or my own, or otherwise in the wild. A squeeze of lime and........wow! Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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