Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Swamy: Effort and grace are both necessary in order to follow the quest successfully, but without vichara (self-enquiry) there is no grace and without grace there is no vichara. You can hold onto the 'I'-thought by your own effort; more than that you cannot do. If the candle comes near the sun what will happen? It will melt away. The same thing will happen to the mind if you hold onto the 'I'-thought. When it goes back to its source in the Heart, the Self will consume it until only the Self remains. In the Self there is no 'I'-thought, there is no mind, and there are no thoughts. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Godman: No Mind - I am the Self ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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