Gabriele: Lakshmana Swamy: Kundalini is the mind

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Thanks for sharing that Gabriele. Did Lakshmana Swami spend some time

with Sri Ramana. It appears so.

 

All of these experiences depend on the path people follow and there

is no rigid structure to it.

 

Sri Ramana said that the views that the Shakti rises from Muladhara

and that it rises from the Heart simply depend on the perspective of

the person. The Spiritual Heart becomes active for a Yogi at the end.

 

The Kundalini does appear to rise from the Muladhara initially. After

breaking the three granthis, it can be made to rise from any of the

Shakti centers or even anywhere from the body.

 

The mind does come down from Sahasarara through the Amrita Nadi to

join with the spiritual Heart. In the case of a yogi, however, the

Shakti reaches the brain first, and brings the mind along with ItSelf

into the Heart. One can say that the Mind is Shakti. One can also say

that the mind is one aspect of Shakti. The yogic texts say that Mind

and Prana are always joined. When one moves, the other moves.

 

Sorry to be so technical! But I love this stuff! :-). :-).

 

Love,

Harsha

 

 

 

, "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote:

> Dear All,

> found this about kundalini in Godman's "No Mind - I am the Self".

> This answers of Lakshmana Swamy may be for some of interest as they

can help

> to see the kundalini experience and also the Heart-experience in

another light.

>

> In Sri Ramana

> Gabriele

>

> Question:

> I have read different books on yogic and tantric traditions and

they all speak of

> the kundalini rising from the muladhara chakra (at the base of the

spine) to the

> sahasrara chakra (just above the top of the head). They say that

when the

> kundalini reaches the sahasrara, this is the final state, moksha,

or liberation.

>

> Swamy:

> It is not final. It has to go from the Heart to the sahasrara and

then back to the

> Heart again for realisation to occur. Kundalini sakti means the

mind. It rises

> from the Heart-centre to the brain. When it goes back into the

Heart and dies

> there, that is moksha, the final state. ...

>

> Question:

> It is said that when the kundalini rises to the sahasrara, Siva and

Sakti merge.

> Is this so?

>

> Swamy:

> No. Sakti means mind. It has to return back to its source, the

Heart,

> which is Siva, and die there.

>

> Question:

> So you are saying that kundalini is only in the mind. Is this

correct?

>

> Swamy:

> No, that is not correct. It is the mind. My direct experience is

that the mind

> rises from the Heart to the brain, never from the muladhara to the

sahasrara.

> ...

>

> Making the kundalini rise from the muladhara to the sahasrara is a

mental

> activity. It will not take one beyond the mind, and it will not

kill the mind.

> For realisation, the mind must sink into the Heart and be destroyed

by the

> Self. The raising of the kundalini through yogic practices does not

result in

> realisation, even when the kundalini reaches the sahasrara. Such an

achievement

> is an achievement of the mind; realisation can only result from the

destruction

> of the mind.

>

> There is a channel which runs from the Heart-centre to the brain;

it is called the

> amrita nadi. The mind rises to the brain through this channel and

then goes back

> into the Heart-centre again during sleep or deep menditation. The

mind rising

> and falling in this channel is the true kundalini.

> At the moment of realisation the 'I'-thought goes down this channel

and is

> destroyed in the Heart. After realisation neither the amrita nadi

nor the

> Heart-centre are of any importance. The jnani then knows that he is

the

> all-pervading Self.