Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 , "lastrainhome" <lastrain@w...> wrote: > Well......It looks like I'm not going to get out of this.............. > > > I waited too long to come up with a good excuse........... > > Tuesday, I have to report for jury duty. > > > and like all good advaitians know that whatever the accused is on trial for.....they are innocent. > > They were hard wired to do (or not do) whatever was done. > > I guess that this one is destined to pretend to decide their fate........and also destined to whine about it....... > > > > Michael Dear Michael, I was recently called for jury duty too, only my summons came at the same time I was giving birth! Nonetheless, it inspired quite an interesting conversation between me and Jim and our friend who was also recently called. The friend ended up getting relieved from duty by declaring financial difficulty, but in our conversation we were all wondering about the opportunity to simply speak what is true for us at the appropriate moment. It could be an amazing experience, you know? For instance, what if there was the perfect moment to say something to the judge like, "I am uncomfortable being here because my belief system does not exactly line up with our justice system." Or something like, "I would have a really difficult time judging someone as guilty, or deciding on a punishment for them. I don't think I can do that." Imagine how cool it would be to go in there not knowing what the huge potential there is in a situation like that! Who knows what would happen if you went in there with your innocent, open heart leading the way? For all you know, you might end up along with all the other jurors and it would be okay (in your heart) to play the game. Who can say what Peace's agenda will be? I would LOVE to know what happens. Please keep us informed! Love, Kheyala P.S. I cannot seem to remove your letter about Nathen from my inbox. It's too precious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Fortunately I've just sat and listened the last couple times and not been called. Have "fun" pretending. John P.S. Thanks for "Looking" - lastrainhome Sunday, October 13, 2002 5:28 PM Judgement Day Well......It looks like I'm not going to get out of this..............I waited too long to come up with a good excuse...........Tuesday, I have to report for jury duty.and like all good advaitians know that whatever the accused is on trial for.....they are innocent.They were hard wired to do (or not do) whatever was done.I guess that this one is destined to pretend to decide their fate........and also destined to whine about it.......Michael/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 , "kheyalove" <kheyala@n...> wrote: > , "lastrainhome" <lastrain@w...> wrote: > > Well......It looks like I'm not going to get out of > this.............. > > > > > > I waited too long to come up with a good excuse........... > > > > Tuesday, I have to report for jury duty. > > > > > > and like all good advaitians know that whatever the accused is on > trial for.....they are innocent. > > > > They were hard wired to do (or not do) whatever was done. > > > > I guess that this one is destined to pretend to decide their > fate........and also destined to whine about it....... > > > > > > > > Michael > > Dear Michael, > > I was recently called for jury duty too, only my summons came at the > same time I was giving birth! Nonetheless, it inspired quite an > interesting conversation between me and Jim and our friend who was > also recently called. > > The friend ended up getting relieved from duty by declaring financial > difficulty, but in our conversation we were all wondering about the > opportunity to simply speak what is true for us at the appropriate > moment. > > It could be an amazing experience, you know? For instance, what if > there was the perfect moment to say something to the judge like, "I > am uncomfortable being here because my belief system does not exactly > line up with our justice system." Or something like, "I would have a > really difficult time judging someone as guilty, or deciding on a > punishment for them. I don't think I can do that." > > Imagine how cool it would be to go in there not knowing what the huge > potential there is in a situation like that! Who knows what would > happen if you went in there with your innocent, open heart leading > the way? For all you know, you might end up along with all the other > jurors and it would be okay (in your heart) to play the game. > > Who can say what Peace's agenda will be? > > I would LOVE to know what happens. Please keep us informed! > > Love, > Kheyala > > P.S. I cannot seem to remove your letter about Nathen from my inbox. > It's too precious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 , "lastrainhome" <lastrain@w...> wrote: > , "kheyalove" <kheyala@n...> wrote: > > , "lastrainhome" <lastrain@w...> wrote: > > > Well......It looks like I'm not going to get out of > > this.............. > > > > > > > > > I waited too long to come up with a good excuse........... > > > > > > Tuesday, I have to report for jury duty. > > > > > > > > > and like all good advaitians know that whatever the accused is on > > trial for.....they are innocent. > > > > > > They were hard wired to do (or not do) whatever was done. > > > > > > I guess that this one is destined to pretend to decide their > > fate........and also destined to whine about it....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > I was recently called for jury duty too, only my summons came at the > > same time I was giving birth! Nonetheless, it inspired quite an > > interesting conversation between me and Jim and our friend who was > > also recently called. > > > > The friend ended up getting relieved from duty by declaring financial > > difficulty, but in our conversation we were all wondering about the > > opportunity to simply speak what is true for us at the appropriate > > moment. > > > > It could be an amazing experience, you know? For instance, what if > > there was the perfect moment to say something to the judge like, "I > > am uncomfortable being here because my belief system does not exactly > > line up with our justice system." Or something like, "I would have a > > really difficult time judging someone as guilty, or deciding on a > > punishment for them. I don't think I can do that." > > > > Imagine how cool it would be to go in there not knowing what the huge > > potential there is in a situation like that! Who knows what would > > happen if you went in there with your innocent, open heart leading > > the way? For all you know, you might end up along with all the other > > jurors and it would be okay (in your heart) to play the game. > > > > Who can say what Peace's agenda will be? > > > > I would LOVE to know what happens. Please keep us informed! > > > > Love, > > Kheyala > > > > P.S. I cannot seem to remove your letter about Nathen from my inbox. > > It's too precious. Dearest Kheyala, Sometime ago I wrote a letter to the court stating that, considering the way I had lived my life, I felt incapable of judging another human being. The letter was quite long. I thought it to be a perfect combination of christian ethics combined with a nuance of Eastern esoterica. At the very least, I thought that when they read my plea, I would be releaved of "my obligation" to sit in judgement........At most.......perhaps a revision of the entire juresprudence system....... When the letter arrived.......I opened it slowly......savoring the moment..... In effect it said......"Michael.....Come on down". I have to admit though.......You have me intrigued about the possibility of entering this adventure naked (not literally....although that may work) armed only with emptiness. Who knows what creatures live in those hills? If this goes bad.......can I use your name? Perhaps you can sit on the jury at my trial. If you would like......I will keep you informed. All love to you Kheyala and to your radiant family. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 , "lastrainhome" <lastrain@w...> wrote: > Well......It looks like I'm not going to get out of this.............. > > > I waited too long to come up with a good excuse........... > > Tuesday, I have to report for jury duty. > > > and like all good advaitians know that whatever the accused is on trial for.....they are innocent. Hi Michael, This used to be a big problem for me too. Now it's quite exciting to be chosen for jury duty and really be involved with the whole process. Look at the crime/case itself.... not the person. Did he do (this or that), or not? Being is not doing. The person is always innocent of who they are, not what they do. Have fun really listening to the facts of the case. Facts are not judgements. Have fun seeing if there is any reasonable doubt based on these facts of both sides presented. You will feel it. And if you find the person truly innocent of the crime, you can be very helpful in the process. If you find them guilty... of the crime (not personally), you are helping others by getting this innocent person that is guilty of (whatever) off the streets to hopefully rehabilitate... and have time to learn more of his own innocence. :-) I hope you get chosen... you will have a ball, without pretense. Love, xxxtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 I was called for jury duty when I lived in D.C. The case was a murder that took place in a prison and I really, really wanted to serve on the jury. But during the voir dire (sp? when they question you about your background), they found out I was a volunteer counselor at the Arlington jail and that was the end of that. I was hugely impressed with the judge, Henry Green, who unfortunately died not long after that. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 t, "lastrainhome" <lastrain@w...> wrote:> Well......It looks like I'm not going to get out of this..............> > > I waited too long to come up with a good excuse...........> > Tuesday, I have to report for jury duty.> > > and like all good advaitians know that whatever the accused is on trial for.....they are innocent.hi michael i'm in agreement for the most part with tg. there shouldn't be a problem for you since you are only there to determine if someone has committed a crime or not. there is no judgment on the person. i do however disagree with tg's thought that you will have "a ball". i've served twice now, and both times more time was spent waiting and doing nothing than anything else. i was amazed at the total lack of ability by all lawyers involved, and by their lack of concern for finding the truth as opposed to being the winner. deliberations may open your eyes as well. in both cases i was completely taken aback at what some people will believe, with or without supporting facts. 12 people, 12 different views. can be very hard to come to an agreement. however it turns out for you, i wish you good luck with it. peace to you marty Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, &; more faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 , marty powell <martyjinpa> wrote: > > > t, "lastrainhome" <lastrain@w...> wrote: > > Well......It looks like I'm not going to get out of > this.............. > > > > > > I waited too long to come up with a good excuse........... > > > > Tuesday, I have to report for jury duty. > > > > > > and like all good advaitians know that whatever the accused is on > trial for.....they are innocent. > > hi michael > > i'm in agreement for the most part with tg. there shouldn't be a problem for you since you are only there to determine if someone has committed a crime or not. there is no judgment on the person. i do however disagree with tg's thought that you will have "a ball". i've served twice now, and both times more time was spent waiting and doing nothing than anything else. i was amazed at the total lack of ability by all lawyers involved, and by their lack of concern for finding the truth as opposed to being the winner. deliberations may open your eyes as well. in both cases i was completely taken aback at what some people will believe, with or without supporting facts. 12 people, 12 different views. can be very hard to come to an agreement. however it turns out for you, i wish you good luck with it. > > peace to you marty > > Thanks Marty, This makes me feel a lot better. :-0 I am reminded of Nisargadattas "Washing blood with blood". Due to everyones encouragement, I am going to step up to the plate.......so to speak. "Therefore arise and fight. Merely be the apparent instrument for their end.......They have already been slane by Me, O ambidextrous bowman" The bugle sounds........the horses of war arch their neck and paw at the ground. I can hardly hold them back. ............the sounds of ten thousand feet on the horizon. sabers ready..........no shield this time.................bare-chested into the fray....let them strike anywhere..... Oh............My wife just told me they have posponed my jury duty until the twenty third......... Damn.............. I guess I better finish up those dishes. Michael > > > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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