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Hello, All. My name is Rose, I'm 54, I live in rural upstate New York, with

husband, Fred, and our four cats. We are vegans and we lead a very simple

homestead-type lifestyle.

 

I say "grasping" because it seems that's all I've been doing. I could give

a list of all the reasons for grasping and all the ways one can grasp. I

could write a book! (Hmmm..., but I digress)...

 

I find myself constantly and consistently standing at the threshhold between

a complex of depression and anxiety, and clarity. Moments of clarity are

few and far between, but it's the grasping at whatever fills the emptiness

and pain of what I've been draggin' around lo these many years.

 

So, in his wisdom, my husband suggested I return to something I've "toyed"

with - meditation. And especially the "living in the moment" type - insight

meditation.

 

He's right. (Geez, I hate that! - kidding, of course.) But I need to stop

this grasping and give myself some peace.

 

So, here I am. All I really understand about insight (or any other type)

meditation is the

breathing and allowing thoughts to flow through and coming back to breath.

When I do that, I can feel my shoulders dropping almost immediately.

 

I really need help. This has gone on too long.

 

Rose

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Hi Rose,

 

, "Fred & Rose Lieberman" <pyrite@c...>

wrote:

> He's right. (Geez, I hate that! - kidding, of course.) But I need

> to stop this grasping and give myself some peace.

 

Just my view from here... but when grasping becomes painful enough,

you'll stop it. It's like holding a red-hot stone... the hand just

opens, you don't have to think about it. When the 'stone' of

grasping is red hot it will drop.

> I really need help. This has gone on too long.

 

You got it! Just stop the grasping, now. It is that simple, if you

let it. But conflicting desires often don't let it -- if so then

inquiry into why are you grasping (and who is grasping) is called for.

 

Peace,

 

Tim

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I really like you, Rose.

 

:)

 

 

 

, "Fred & Rose Lieberman" <pyrite@c...>

wrote:

> Hello, All. My name is Rose, I'm 54, I live in rural upstate New

York, with

> husband, Fred, and our four cats. We are vegans and we lead a very

simple

> homestead-type lifestyle.

>

> I say "grasping" because it seems that's all I've been doing. I

could give

> a list of all the reasons for grasping and all the ways one can

grasp. I

> could write a book! (Hmmm..., but I digress)...

>

> I find myself constantly and consistently standing at the

threshhold between

> a complex of depression and anxiety, and clarity. Moments of

clarity are

> few and far between, but it's the grasping at whatever fills the

emptiness

> and pain of what I've been draggin' around lo these many years.

>

> So, in his wisdom, my husband suggested I return to something

I've "toyed"

> with - meditation. And especially the "living in the moment" type -

insight

> meditation.

>

> He's right. (Geez, I hate that! - kidding, of course.) But I need

to stop

> this grasping and give myself some peace.

>

> So, here I am. All I really understand about insight (or any other

type)

> meditation is the

> breathing and allowing thoughts to flow through and coming back to

breath.

> When I do that, I can feel my shoulders dropping almost immediately.

>

> I really need help. This has gone on too long.

>

> Rose

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, "Fred & Rose Lieberman" <pyrite@c...> wrote:

> Hello, All. My name is Rose, I'm 54, I live in rural upstate New York, with

> husband, Fred, and our four cats. We are vegans and we lead a very simple

> homestead-type lifestyle.

>

> I say "grasping" because it seems that's all I've been doing. I could give

> a list of all the reasons for grasping and all the ways one can grasp. I

> could write a book! (Hmmm..., but I digress)...

>

> I find myself constantly and consistently standing at the threshhold between

> a complex of depression and anxiety, and clarity. Moments of clarity are

> few and far between, but it's the grasping at whatever fills the emptiness

> and pain of what I've been draggin' around lo these many years.

>

> So, in his wisdom, my husband suggested I return to something I've "toyed"

> with - meditation. And especially the "living in the moment" type - insight

> meditation.

>

> He's right. (Geez, I hate that! - kidding, of course.) But I need to stop

> this grasping and give myself some peace.

>

> So, here I am. All I really understand about insight (or any other type)

> meditation is the

> breathing and allowing thoughts to flow through and coming back to breath.

> When I do that, I can feel my shoulders dropping almost immediately.

>

> I really need help. This has gone on too long.

>

> Rose

 

To ask is to receive because you have made room in which something that is

not on your level can come to you. Wait with all your pain intact. Don't give

a

drop of it away...it is too precious to squander on just anyone. Only give your

pain to God...no one else will be able to do the right thing with it.

 

Vicki Woodyard

http://www.bobwoodyard.com

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, "Fred & Rose Lieberman" <pyrite@c...>

wrote:

> Hello, All. My name is Rose, I'm 54, I live in rural upstate New

York, with

> husband, Fred, and our four cats. We are vegans and we lead a very

simple

> homestead-type lifestyle.

>

> I say "grasping" because it seems that's all I've been doing. I

could give

> a list of all the reasons for grasping and all the ways one can

grasp. I

> could write a book! (Hmmm..., but I digress)...

>

> I find myself constantly and consistently standing at the

threshhold between

> a complex of depression and anxiety, and clarity. Moments of

clarity are

> few and far between, but it's the grasping at whatever fills the

emptiness

> and pain of what I've been draggin' around lo these many years.

>

> So, in his wisdom, my husband suggested I return to something

I've "toyed"

> with - meditation. And especially the "living in the moment" type -

insight

> meditation.

>

> He's right. (Geez, I hate that! - kidding, of course.) But I need

to stop

> this grasping and give myself some peace.

>

> So, here I am. All I really understand about insight (or any other

type)

> meditation is the

> breathing and allowing thoughts to flow through and coming back to

breath.

> When I do that, I can feel my shoulders dropping almost immediately.

>

> I really need help. This has gone on too long.

>

> Rose

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Hi Rose,

 

Have you thought about exercise and weight lifting. It's really good

for helping stress.

 

Is there a meditation center in your area? Maybe you could join there

and learn some practical methods.

 

There are some good books out there on meditation and yoga as well.

 

 

Harsha

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