Nonviolence, Love, and Self-Realization

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Thank you for planting the seed

love and peace to you,

J

In a message dated 12/3/2002 9:17:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, harshaimtm writes:

Thank you Sangha members for many inspirational

messages of love, poetry, pictures, and prayers, and

sharing of wisdom.

Thank you Al, John, John, Amanda, Andrew, Master Pham,

Joyce, Gloria, Carol, J, BigTexasBob, Vicki, Vicki,

Vicki, K, Kheyala, Gloria, Mazie, b, Saktidasa (Tony),

David, Tim, Kim, Sim, Know Mystery, Marlena,

Satkartar, Gabriele, Al, TG, Jane, Shawn, Sam, Pam,

Richard, Holly, Linda, Jill, Bill, Rose, Jan, Dan,

Mace, Greg, Bruce, Emanuel, Andrew, Jerry, Robert,

Sherry, Mary, Cary, Grant, and so many others who have

posted here recently.

Wishing you all, all good things, and happiness and

friendship and contentment.

We are reminded that in all the yogic traditions and

scriptures, above all other virtues, nonviolence is

given the highest place. Patanjali's yoga sutras, for

example, mentions Ahimsa above all others yamas

(restraints or rules of conduct).

Sri Ramana often pointed out that for a yogi, Ahimsa

(the state of non harming) is always the first

principle to abide by. The notion of Ahimsa has deep

meaning and is not a gimmick. Peace cannot be obtained

by enjoying victory over others. This is a spiritual

and psychological truth. Those who win by taking

things from others by force or create fear in others

cannot help but harbor fear in their unconscious that

the same can happen to them. Those who treat others

with kindness, respect, amity, and love, and give

freely of their gifts gradually purify their

consciousness and become free of hatred and enmity.

They are like deep valleys into whom the grace of the

Divine pours forth.

May all beings work for each other's welfare.

May all beings be free of sorrow and be blessed with

fullness of life of peace.

Love to all

Harsha

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sangha members for many inspirational

messages of love, poetry, pictures, and prayers, and

sharing of wisdom.

 

Thank you Al, John, John, Amanda, Andrew, Master Pham,

Joyce, Gloria, Carol, J, BigTexasBob, Vicki, Vicki,

Vicki, K, Kheyala, Gloria, Mazie, b, Saktidasa (Tony),

David, Tim, Kim, Sim, Know Mystery, Marlena,

Satkartar, Gabriele, Al, TG, Jane, Shawn, Sam, Pam,

Richard, Holly, Linda, Jill, Bill, Rose, Jan, Dan,

Mace, Greg, Bruce, Emanuel, Andrew, Jerry, Robert,

Sherry, Mary, Cary, Grant, and so many others who have

posted here recently.

 

Wishing you all, all good things, and happiness and

friendship and contentment.

 

We are reminded that in all the yogic traditions and

scriptures, above all other virtues, nonviolence is

given the highest place. Patanjali's yoga sutras, for

example, mentions Ahimsa above all others yamas

(restraints or rules of conduct).

 

Sri Ramana often pointed out that for a yogi, Ahimsa

(the state of non harming) is always the first

principle to abide by. The notion of Ahimsa has deep

meaning and is not a gimmick. Peace cannot be obtained

by enjoying victory over others. This is a spiritual

and psychological truth. Those who win by taking

things from others by force or create fear in others

cannot help but harbor fear in their unconscious that

the same can happen to them. Those who treat others

with kindness, respect, amity, and love, and give

freely of their gifts gradually purify their

consciousness and become free of hatred and enmity.

They are like deep valleys into whom the grace of the

Divine pours forth.

 

May all beings work for each other's welfare.

 

May all beings be free of sorrow and be blessed with

fullness of life of peace.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote:

 

Wishing you all, all good things, and happiness and

friendship and contentment.

 

We are reminded that in all the yogic traditions and

scriptures, above all other virtues, nonviolence is

given the highest place. Patanjali's yoga sutras, for

example, mentions Ahimsa above all others yamas

(restraints or rules of conduct).

 

Sri Ramana often pointed out that for a yogi, Ahimsa

(the state of non harming) is always the first

principle to abide by. The notion of Ahimsa has deep

meaning and is not a gimmick. Peace cannot be obtained

by enjoying victory over others. This is a spiritual

and psychological truth

 

Those who treat others with kindness, respect, amity,

and love, and give freely of their gifts gradually purify their

consciousness and become free of hatred and enmity.

They are like deep valleys into whom the grace of the

Divine pours forth.

 

May all beings work for each other's welfare.

 

May all beings be free of sorrow and be blessed with

fullness of life of peace.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

Dearest Harshaji,

 

Your message is so beautiful. Yes. We are blessed to know you,

DearHearted Harshaji. "Hatred will never cease by hatred, but by

Love alone." Da Buddha...

 

(25) Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul,

guard him like the pupil of your eye."

 

(42) Jesus said, "Become passers-by."

 

(51) His disciples said to him,

"When will the repose of the dead come about,

and when will the new world come?"

He said to them,

"What you look forward to has already come,

but you do not recognize it."

 

~Gospel of Thomas

 

Grace is within every human being. It is the state of true being,

true awareness devoid of otherness. It is the Self.

 

Just like a mother who feeds her sleeping child even without the

child knowing that it is being fed, the grace of pure divine

Self enters our hearts in a manner which cannot be known by us

even if we have the most subtle and powerful of intellects, and

thereby, His grace informs us and brings about the destruction

of our mind. Ah! His grace is beyond all limits and cannot be

gauged by anyone.

 

~Sri Ramana

 

 

LoveAlways,

 

Mazie

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, Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote:

> Thank you Sangha members for many inspirational

> messages of love, poetry, pictures, and prayers, and

> sharing of wisdom.

>

> Thank you Al, John, John, Amanda, Andrew, Master Pham,

> Joyce, Gloria, Carol, J, BigTexasBob, Vicki, Vicki,

> Vicki, K, Kheyala, Gloria, Mazie, b, Saktidasa (Tony),

> David, Tim, Kim, Sim, Know Mystery, Marlena,

> Satkartar, Gabriele, Al, TG, Jane, Shawn, Sam, Pam,

> Richard, Holly, Linda, Jill, Bill, Rose, Jan, Dan,

> Mace, Greg, Bruce, Emanuel, Andrew, Jerry, Robert,

> Sherry, Mary, Cary, Grant, and so many others who have

> posted here recently.

>

> Wishing you all, all good things, and happiness and

> friendship and contentment.

>

> We are reminded that in all the yogic traditions and

> scriptures, above all other virtues, nonviolence is

> given the highest place. Patanjali's yoga sutras, for

> example, mentions Ahimsa above all others yamas

> (restraints or rules of conduct).

>

> Sri Ramana often pointed out that for a yogi, Ahimsa

> (the state of non harming) is always the first

> principle to abide by. The notion of Ahimsa has deep

> meaning and is not a gimmick. Peace cannot be obtained

> by enjoying victory over others. This is a spiritual

> and psychological truth. Those who win by taking

> things from others by force or create fear in others

> cannot help but harbor fear in their unconscious that

> the same can happen to them. Those who treat others

> with kindness, respect, amity, and love, and give

> freely of their gifts gradually purify their

> consciousness and become free of hatred and enmity.

> They are like deep valleys into whom the grace of the

> Divine pours forth.

>

> May all beings work for each other's welfare.

>

> May all beings be free of sorrow and be blessed with

> fullness of life of peace.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

Namaste Harsha et al,

 

Unfortunately Ahimsa is much understood. Most people do not realise

it also includes 'resistance to evil/violence'.

It also includes 'Asteya' or non stealing, which covers a multitude

of sins like stealing people's countries, resources etc etc etc.

Lying is also violent as it steals the truth. In fact if one takes

the total precept it covers every step to Moksha.

 

It also covers standing by whilst a violent action occurs and doing

nothing. Complicity is itself violent.

 

In the end the only Ahimsa exists in Silence of Brahman......Om

Sakti....Saktidass.

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, "viorica weissman" <viorica@z...> wrote:

 

dear Mazie,

 

i love you,

vicki

 

 

Dearest Vicki,

 

Beloved friend, i Love you. Dear friend, we walk

the wild roads where blossoms grow

of such sweetness,

such beauty,

we know only

this moment.

This is Love.

 

LoveAlways,

 

Mazie...

 

....231

 

An image arises.

Identification.

Disintegration.

Suffering.

 

Another image arises.

Identification.

Disintegration.

Suffering.

 

This goes on for

quite some

time.

 

Between the images –

their arising and dissolving –

there is an emotionless

ecstasy of profound acceptance,

prior to any identification with

suffering, in blissful clarity of

silent presence.

 

It is not far.

It is universally applicable.

It is the only thing

I am sure of --

 

I am.

 

All else is the turning

for which there is

no accounting.

>From any Cold Mountain vista

light streams out in every direction,

illuminating the ten thousand things.

 

Each one is composed of the same light,

mirroring the jewel-like essence of

that mysterious presence.

 

Inching along the spine of this dark mountain,

snowy heart steaming under the fire-brand's

relentless mercy, my tinder of images

one day ignited and blazed across

the sky of mind and yet, even in this

bed of ashes, Cold Mountain turns again

and again, claiming nothing, taking everything.

 

 

 

 

 

> Dearest Harshaji,

> >

> > Your message is so beautiful. Yes. We are blessed to know you,

> > DearHearted Harshaji. "Hatred will never cease by hatred, but by

> > Love alone." Da Buddha...

> >

> > (25) Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul,

> > guard him like the pupil of your eye."

> >

> > (42) Jesus said, "Become passers-by."

> >

> > (51) His disciples said to him,

> > "When will the repose of the dead come about,

> > and when will the new world come?"

> > He said to them,

> > "What you look forward to has already come,

> > but you do not recognize it."

> >

> > ~Gospel of Thomas

> >

> > Grace is within every human being. It is the state of true being,

> > true awareness devoid of otherness. It is the Self.

> >

> > Just like a mother who feeds her sleeping child even without the

> > child knowing that it is being fed, the grace of pure divine

> > Self enters our hearts in a manner which cannot be known by us

> > even if we have the most subtle and powerful of intellects, and

> > thereby, His grace informs us and brings about the destruction

> > of our mind. Ah! His grace is beyond all limits and cannot be

> > gauged by anyone.

> >

> > ~Sri Ramana

> >

> >

> > LoveAlways,

> >

> > Mazie

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Dear Harsha:

Welcome back. You were missed :-) You wrote:

> We are reminded that in all the yogic traditions and scriptures,

above all other virtues, nonviolence is> given the highest place.

Patanjali's yoga sutras, for example, mentions Ahimsa above all

others yamas> (restraints or rules of conduct).

Om, shanti, shanti, shanti.

> Sri Ramana often pointed out that for a yogi, Ahimsa (the state of

non harming) is always the first principle to abide by. The >notion

of Ahimsa has deep meaning and is not a gimmick. Peace cannot be

obtained by enjoying victory over others.

Om, shanti, shanti, shanti.

>This is a spiritual and psychological truth. Those who win by taking

things from others by force or create fear in others cannot >help but

harbor fear in their unconscious that the same can happen to them.

Om, shanti, shanti, shanti.

>Those who treat others with kindness, respect, amity, and love, and

give freely of their gifts gradually purify their >consciousness and

become free of hatred and enmity. They are like deep valleys into

whom the grace of the Divine pours >forth.

Once the Hunter, then the Prey. Now, the Light that Shines. Thank you

for sharing Your Grace so freely.

Love,

Joyce

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Dear Saktidass,

 

I agree with you. If Ahimsa or perfect nonviolence is understood to

the depth, it outlines the steps to Moksha. Ahimsa includes all other

virtues. That is the beauty of it. Ahimsa is both the path and the

goal. Ahimsa can be practiced when awareness has opened our heart to

the nature of mind and suffering.

 

Moksha is the complete absorption in Brahman which is of the nature

of fullness. That is why it is called the Heart.

 

You said that Moksha only exists in the complete silence of Brahman.

That is very beautiful. One can also say, there is only complete

silence of Brahman.

 

In the perfect embrace, nothing and no one is left out. That is how

it seems to me.

 

Lots of love to everyone.

Harsha

 

 

, "saktidasa" <saktidasa> wrote:

> , Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote:

> > Thank you Sangha members for many inspirational

> > messages of love, poetry, pictures, and prayers, and

> > sharing of wisdom.

> >

> > Thank you Al, John, John, Amanda, Andrew, Master Pham,

> > Joyce, Gloria, Carol, J, BigTexasBob, Vicki, Vicki,

> > Vicki, K, Kheyala, Gloria, Mazie, b, Saktidasa (Tony),

> > David, Tim, Kim, Sim, Know Mystery, Marlena,

> > Satkartar, Gabriele, Al, TG, Jane, Shawn, Sam, Pam,

> > Richard, Holly, Linda, Jill, Bill, Rose, Jan, Dan,

> > Mace, Greg, Bruce, Emanuel, Andrew, Jerry, Robert,

> > Sherry, Mary, Cary, Grant, and so many others who have

> > posted here recently.

> >

> > Wishing you all, all good things, and happiness and

> > friendship and contentment.

> >

> > We are reminded that in all the yogic traditions and

> > scriptures, above all other virtues, nonviolence is

> > given the highest place. Patanjali's yoga sutras, for

> > example, mentions Ahimsa above all others yamas

> > (restraints or rules of conduct).

> >

> > Sri Ramana often pointed out that for a yogi, Ahimsa

> > (the state of non harming) is always the first

> > principle to abide by. The notion of Ahimsa has deep

> > meaning and is not a gimmick. Peace cannot be obtained

> > by enjoying victory over others. This is a spiritual

> > and psychological truth. Those who win by taking

> > things from others by force or create fear in others

> > cannot help but harbor fear in their unconscious that

> > the same can happen to them. Those who treat others

> > with kindness, respect, amity, and love, and give

> > freely of their gifts gradually purify their

> > consciousness and become free of hatred and enmity.

> > They are like deep valleys into whom the grace of the

> > Divine pours forth.

> >

> > May all beings work for each other's welfare.

> >

> > May all beings be free of sorrow and be blessed with

> > fullness of life of peace.

> >

> > Love to all

> > Harsha

>

> Namaste Harsha et al,

>

> Unfortunately Ahimsa is much understood. Most people do not realise

> it also includes 'resistance to evil/violence'.

> It also includes 'Asteya' or non stealing, which covers a multitude

> of sins like stealing people's countries, resources etc etc etc.

> Lying is also violent as it steals the truth. In fact if one takes

> the total precept it covers every step to Moksha.

>

> It also covers standing by whilst a violent action occurs and doing

> nothing. Complicity is itself violent.

>

> In the end the only Ahimsa exists in Silence of Brahman......Om

> Sakti....Saktidass.

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, "harshaimtm" wrote:

> Dear Saktidass,

>

> I agree with you. If Ahimsa or perfect nonviolence is understood to

> the depth, it outlines the steps to Moksha. Ahimsa includes all

other

> virtues. That is the beauty of it. Ahimsa is both the path and the

> goal. Ahimsa can be practiced when awareness has opened our heart

to

> the nature of mind and suffering.

>

> Moksha is the complete absorption in Brahman which is of the nature

> of fullness. That is why it is called the Heart.

>

> You said that Moksha only exists in the complete silence of

Brahman.

> That is very beautiful. One can also say, there is only complete

> silence of Brahman.

>

> In the perfect embrace, nothing and no one is left out. That is how

> it seems to me.

>

> Lots of love to everyone.

> Harsha

>

Namaste Harsha,

 

Yes like the Yogas, practise one and you succeed in them all. One has

to learn how to be non violent unto oneself then expand it from

there. The detachment from the body and treating it as an innocent is

a good experience in witnessing.

 

Ahimsa is so important and universally based that many do not yet

have the level of awareness to comprehend it. I see my own faults

when I look, what I think, say, do and what I eat( well as a vegie

I'm not too bad there). When I don't practice discrimination etc

 

However it never ceases to amaze me how the link between normal

intelligence and the compassion of an aware vijnanamayakosa, can be a

gulf. It is all Kala and time will take care of itself. There only is

Ahimsa...........Om Sakti....Saktidass.