Mush

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, "Alton Slater wrote:

> Bhagavan on Silence

> From Conscious Immortality

>

> Language is only a medium for communication of one's thoughts. It

is

> used after thoughts have arisen, and they arise only after the `I'

> thought. The `I' thought is the root of all conversation. One can

> understand another when one remains without thinking, by the

> universal language- silence.

 

This is quite profound.

 

I only say so because it has direct relevance

to how I currently understand myself.

 

Just yesterday I noticed anger within me swell up

and jolt the body like electricity.

 

The funny thing is

I have already learned how to become conscious

of the body and it's core essence

to the point that it naturally relaxes...

 

It became clear

there was another level

to explore...

 

I mean, afterall,

I could become so aware of the body

(with the efficiency that a dog learns to sit on command)

that it could turn into mush

but still anger (resistance)

could still electrify and burst forth...

 

Hmmmm...

there must be another level...

 

Then it occured to me.

Thought!

 

Yes, that was it!

 

Geez, I had always been attracted to the sentiments

expressed by the likes of Krishnamurti and such

(not the crazy one, the enlightened one)

 

And that was it!

 

The deeper level must be thought!

(so i thought)

 

And it's true!

(damn true)

 

Something about thinking causes

tension and resistance

(like an electrical resistor)

 

...another level to become aware of

and turn to mush! (beyond the body)

 

At this point right now

I'm thinking,

"It starts with the body but does not end there,

it gets more subtle with thought."

 

Now I'm thinking,

what's more subtle than thought

that can be turned to mush

with awareness...?

 

Love,

David

(thinking that if anyone takes me seriously they must be truly dumb)

 

> Silence is ever-speaking; it is perennial; speech

> interrupts it. Words obstruct that mute language. When there is

> electricity flowing in a wire, and resistance occurs in its

passage,

> it glows as a lamp or turns as a fan. The wire remains full of

> electric energy.

> Similarly, silence is the eternal flow of language obstructed by

> words. What one fails to know by a conversation that extends to

> several years, can be known in a flash, in silence or before

silence;

> look at Dakshinamurti's teachings, for example. That is the highest

> and most effective language.

>

> People insist on asking me questions and so I must reply, but the

> truth is beyond words.

>

> Editors note: `I watched a visitor who was a famous public speaker,

> and a rigorous debater known for his intolerance and

> argumentativeness, enter the hall and begin to question the

Maharshi.

> Scarcely waiting for and answer he began to provide the answers

> himself. He laid down the law in a loud voice. For instance, he

said,

> `I want to know the way to find truth,' and a minute later he said,

> `Service of humanity is the best way to find truth! The Maharshi

> replied, `That is what you say.' He began to argue with two others

in

> an obnoxious manner. The Maharshi kept quiet and did not say a

single

> word until the man left, when he remarked, `Silence is the great

> weapon with which to answer such people.'

>

> Q: Would you say that the influential force that comes from sitting

in

> silence, meditation on the Self, is able to overcome the passion

and

> agitated thoughts of most people?

> M: Yes, it is the highest power and overcomes everything.

> Q: Why do you not preach to set people on the right path?

> M: You have already decided that I do not preach. Do you know who I

am

> and what preaching is? How do you know that I'm not doing it? Does

> preaching consist of mounting a platform and haranguing people?

> Preaching is simply the communication of knowledge. It may also be

> done in silence. What do you think of someone listening to a speech

> for and hour and going away unimpressed? Compare that with another

who

> sits in the holy presence and goes away after some time with their

> outlook on life totally changed. Which is better--preaching loudly

> without effect, or sitting silently emanating intuitive forces that

> influence others?

>

> Again, how does speech arise? There is the unmanifest ab-stract

> knowledge, and from here the ego gives rise to thoughts and then

> words. In this order of descent, words become the

great-grandchildren

> of the original source. If the word can have some effect, how much

> more powerful will reaching through silence be? Judge for yourself.

>

> Q: Why doesn't the Maharshi help the masses by lecturing to them?

> M: Is God not working? Is He making speeches? Can work be done only

> through speech? Do you know the amount of work that can go on

silently

> without any speech?

> Q: I suppose you have realized God?

> Editors note: The Maharshi remained silent, his eyes gazing into

the

> distance. When the baffled question had departed, the Maharshi

> explained to his disciples that answering such questions was

useless

> and would lead to endless talk.

> M: The meaning of significance of `I' is God. The experience of `I

am'

> is to be still. Mowna is not just keeping your mouth shut. It is

> eternal speech. That state which transcends speech and thought is

> mowna.

> Q: How can we achieve it?

> M: Hold onto something firmly and trace it back to its source.

Mowna

> is the result of concentration. When practice becomes natural it

will

> end in mowna. Meditation without mental activity is mowna.

Subjugation

> of the mind is meditation, deep meditation is eternal speech.

> See the mind. You must stand aloof from it. you are not the

> mind.

> Q: How should we do all this?

> M: The lack of the feeling that we are the Self is the root cause

of

> the trouble. Have nothing to do with thoughts, and be, just be. It

is

> the thoughts alone that create the hindrance, they are the trouble.

> Find out to whom the thoughts occur. As long as you think that a

wrong

> self exists, it will appear to do so, but find out where it arises

and

> it will disappear. Those who have discovered great truths, have

done

> so in the still depths of the Self.

>

> Editors note: His Highness the Maharaja of Mysore visited the

> Maharshi for fifteen minutes, and remained silent almost the whole

> time. At lunch that day, when the devotees were talking about the

> incident, the Maharshi commented on the visit.

>

> M: He is a high advanced soul. He is a Janaka. What need is there

to

> talk when a knower meets anther knower? It is enough for the eyes

to

> meet in a glance; immediately they turn inwards in response and

> recognition. Verbal conversation is then unnecessary.

> Q: I want to ask a question. may I do so?

> M: Yes what question? You said you had read Paul Brunton's book

The

> Secret Path. Read it a thousand time--P.B. has expressed me

correctly;

> then why do you not practice it? Turn to page 73 and see if you

don't

> find answer to your question in paragraph 2.

> Silence is never-ending speech. Vocal speech obstructs silent

speech.

> More things are achieved by silence and more thoughts are conveyed

by

> silence to a wider world. Oral questions and answers may appear to

> benefit the questioner and a few listeners in this hall, but

actually

> they obstruct, delay and interrupt the silent communication of

thought

> waves to thousand of spiritual aspirants all over the world. So any

> sadhaks who come to me for enquiry and elucidation would amply

benefit

> themselves and others by sitting before me silently-absolutely

> speechless.

>

> The greatest and most effective forces are those which are

invisible,

> such as the ether or electricity. Any query you desire to make, ask

> your own mind or thought- you will