Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Q: Ecstatic experience implies the association with a very subtle mind state. What is your state in sleep? M: No ecstasy or pain, but beyond both. The natural state is just that, with consciousness of existence added. Q: What is turiya? M: Turiya is mind in quiescence and aware of Self, with awareness that the mind has merged in its source. Whether the senses are active or inactive is immaterial. In nirvikalpa samadhi the senses are inactive. To know, implies subject and object. To be aware means to be thought-free. Q: I consider sleep a worse state than waking. M: If it were so, why does everyone desire sleep? There are different methods of approach to prove the unreality of the universe. The example of the dream is one of them. Jagrat, swapna and sushupti are all treated elaborately in the scriptures in order that the reality underlying them might be revealed. The intention is not meant to accentuate differences among the three states. Their purpose must be kept clearly in view. They say that the world is unreal - but to what degree? It is like the son of a barren mother, or a flower in the sky? These are mere words without any reference to facts, whereas the world is a fact and not a mere word. The answer it that it is a superimposition on the one Reality like the appearance of a snake on a coiled rope in dim light. Here too the wrong identity ceases as soon as a friend points out that it is a rope, whereas in the matter of the world, it persists even after we have been told it is unreal. How is that? Though knowing it to be unreal, it continues to manifest - but we do not try to satisfy our thirst with the water of the mirage. as soon as one knows that it is a mirage , one gives it up as useless and does not run after it to get water. jagrat, the waking state swapna, dream state sushupti, deep dreamless state Snipped from Conscious Immortality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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