Not attributes...

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Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:22 AM

RE: [RamanaMaharshi] Digest Number 316

Rob Sacks

[editor (AT) realization (DOT) org]Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:41

AMRamanaMaharshi (AT) (DOT) .comSubject: Re: [RamanaMaharshi]

Digest Number 316The book that Vicki and I were discussing(No Mind --

I Am The Self) goes intotremendous detail about the physical side

ofself-realization as described by Sri Ramana --the mind/Kundalini

descending into the heart througha nadi (called in Talks the jivanadi

and inthis book the amrita nadi). The experience of oneparticular

person, Mathru Sri Sarada, isdescribed in almost physiological

detail.*******************************************Yes, Rob. I have

not read the book but am familiar with Amrita Nadi throughpersonal

experience. Amrita Nadi connects the Yogis and Jnanis. It isthrough

Amrita Nadi that the Yogi becomes a Jnani. This is why it is

oftensaid that the "Spiritual Heart" is beyond Sahasarara. The

Kundalini Shaktiafter reaching Sahasarara, can with grace enter the

Amrita Nadi and descendinto the frontal "Spiritual Heart" which

attracts like a Huge Magnet, theultimate black hole, and sucks in the

mind, the Shakti, and the wholeuniverse. Self Alone Shines As Being,

Whole, Utterly Complete, Clear, SeeingIt Self, By It Self, Through It

Self, Independent in all ways, beyondconcepts, thoughts, images, with

no longing for anything whatsoever. It Isthe Ultimate Beauty Aware of

It Self as Self-Existence, Self-Knowledge,Self-Bliss. These are not

attributes but the very nature of the Self. OneMonolithic Whole. The

ancients called it Sat-Chit-Ananda, Nityam, Poornum.Those Who Know

It, have nothing left to be known.Love to

allHarsha/join

All paths go

somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,

and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.

Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject

to the

[Guest guest]

, "Gloria Lee"

<glee (AT) cwhatsoever (DOT) It Is

> the Ultimate Beauty Aware of It Self as Self-Existence, Self-

Knowledge,

> Self-Bliss. These are not attributes but the very nature of the

Self. One

> Monolithic Whole. The ancients called it Sat-Chit-Ananda, Nityam,

Poornum.

Service.

 

Namaste,

 

I beg to differ anything that can be described is an attribute and

therefore belongs to Saguna Brahman. Nirguna is beyond sat-chit-

ananda..........Om Sakti......Tony.

[Guest guest]

, "saktidasa <saktidasa>"

<saktidasa> wrote:

> , "Gloria Lee"

> <glee (AT) cwhatsoever (DOT) It Is

> > the Ultimate Beauty Aware of It Self as Self-Existence, Self-

> Knowledge,

> > Self-Bliss. These are not attributes but the very nature of the

> Self. One

> > Monolithic Whole. The ancients called it Sat-Chit-Ananda, Nityam,

> Poornum.

> Service.

>

> Namaste,

>

> I beg to differ anything that can be described is an attribute and

> therefore belongs to Saguna Brahman. Nirguna is beyond sat-chit-

> ananda..........Om Sakti......Tony.

 

Namaste,

 

To explain further; It is logical that to enjoy ananda one must have

an energy body, therefore we are talking of Saguna.........IMO...Om

Sakti...Ramana wasn't one for getting into obtuse comments very much

for all that is recorded is from interviews etc and the level of

awareness of the audience has to be taken into account..Om

Sakti...Tony.