Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 The door opens...in floats Professor Sri Enlightenment...Sri Enlightenment says..."Now, class, welcome back to Ahimsa 101"BEing that he is enlightened, he is, of course, dripping with bliss and peace.Until he looks over and sees Lady Joyce asleep at her desk.Then, to make matters worse, she starts to talk, no sing, in her sleep!"Bhoomimangalam,Udakamangalam...May there be tranquility on earth, on water"...bhoom bhoom bhoomOh my! Now she is starting to air play the drums onto her desk with her hands!!!Kerplop! goes the finger of Sri E on the top of her tousled headUp pops her head...She opens one eye , and says with a sigh"What did you say? Oh, you asked me...Are you asleep? Or was that a dream, a sweet dream :-)"Suddenly, Lady Joyce says..."Who Am I? What Am I? WHERE am I?"She opens both eyes wide, looks around and sees Tony and Patt, snickering in the corner."Uh oh, I mean Um, I mean, OM Shaantih, Shaantih, Shaantih!!!"Sri speaks again "Lady Joyce...you asked a question and we have not heard from you...other than some mumbo jumbo about tranquility and booming.. two members of the satsanga responded...Is there some problem with your understanding? Perhaps I can help you..."Lazy, I mean, Lady Joyce, who had been sleeping quite soundly is now quite awake.She clears her throat, gulps, blushes, smiles sweetly, and says..."Well, you see, Sri, I lost my train of thought there, for a few days. Cookies,mmmmmm, cookies..."" I think. I Am. Yes, I Am That!!!" That should make him happy, she thinks to herself."That's very nice Lady Joyce, but we are talking about Ahimsa and your question", Sri E says...You can run but you cannot hide, she thinks to herself :-)"Oh, yes, Sri E! Thank you for your guidance, direction, and correction...Oh, Sadguru...I will do whatever you tell me to..."SRI begins to frown..."Lady Joyce, the question..." Lady Joyce speaks. "Oh yes, Sir, I mean Sri, now I remember...I wrote..."I am wondering if anyone can enlighten me as to what they might consider the Christian corollary to the virtue of Ahimsa?I want to connect the two paths if I can, as to a unified goal of peaceand nonviolence.Namaste, Tony, you wrote...> 'Thou shalt not kill', is a good enough place to start.> If one reads the commandments one will find they are really about> Ahimsa. If one reads Jesus speaking about loving thy neighbour andturning the other cheek when struck, that is Ahimsa.Om Sakti, altar boy!!! Do you remember me?I was one of the miscreants who stood in the back of the church...the priest would always yell, I mean, tell us to come in and sit down.True confession- as soon as he turned his back I would leave thechurch and wander around for an hour. Then I would go home looking all holy.You got the scoop on that confession, Tony!!!Although I strayed from the Church at a rather young age :-),I remember and honor enough of the religion in which I was raised,to have thought of do unto others and turn the other cheekDo unto others is a scary proposition given the twisted karma of some soulswhose idea of doing unto others as you would have them do unto youcan include downright mayhem!!! I saw this one go through the wringer overon the L-list. But, you are right, I think the intention was a peaceful one.Turn the other cheek to me represents reaction, not action.It represents the spirit of ahimsa, not the articulation of theconcept itself, but examples, I guess, what are known as parable.Like you said, part of Ahimsa, not the core code of behavior.Back to the definition fo Ahimsa...if you will...First I will quote Harshaji...who started me on this in the first placeBack in early December, this post on Ahimsa from Harshaji..."We are reminded that in all the yogic traditions andscriptures, above all other virtues, nonviolence isgiven the highest place. Patanjali's yoga sutras, forexample, mentions Ahimsa above all others yamas(restraints or rules of conduct).Sri Ramana often pointed out that for a yogi, Ahimsa(the state of non harming) is always the firstprinciple to abide by. The notion of Ahimsa has deepmeaning and is not a gimmick. Peace cannot be obtainedby enjoying victory over others. This is a spiritualand psychological truth. Those who win by takingthings from others by force or create fear in otherscannot help but harbor fear in their unconscious thatthe same can happen to them. Those who treat otherswith kindness, respect, amity, and love, and givefreely of their gifts gradually purify theirconsciousness and become free of hatred and enmity.They are like deep valleys into whom the grace of theDivine pours forth. - Sri Harshaji- --Now, having quoted Harshaji, I can go on (and on and on...)BTY, I am glad you brought the one below up, Tony.I want you to know that I heard you (and others, too :-)No more meat will I eat...LOL...> There are a lot of chapters in the Bible with references to a> vegetarian diet.> In the New Testament James the brother of Jesus and head of the> Christians in Jerusalem is referred to as a vegetarian, as many with> an Essene background were. That is part of Ahimsa.......Om Sakti...Tony.OM Sakti, Tony. LOL to you...Now, Dear Patt...you made me go splat!!!There is no reason for me to fightBecause you are so right.You wrote...>For me, when i threw myself deeply into each teaching, dropping all>concepts of other teachings, I found myself being brought to theRealization of Oneness through each "path". Trying to compare>the similiarities and differences seemed like another shot at>using the mind to 'understand' rather than allowing the Truth to be>revealed.You say that so beautifully. I just had to tell you that.>Actually, I ran away from Christianity into Eastern studies and for the>first time understood what the Christian teachings were saying !! :)Ah, yes!!! Ahimsa, that is what the Christian teachings are saying.I agree! I agree! I agree! Oh, Sri E,That's It...I think Christ was a yogi!See, the Truth shall set you free.>with love and great JOY,JoycePS. Sri E...this is what I was singing in my sleep, Sir, I mean Sri...MANGALAMBhoomimangalam,UdakamangalamMay there be tranquility on earth,May there be tranquility on waterAgnimangalam, VaayumangalamMay there be tranquility in fire,May there be tranquility in the wind,Gaganamangalam, SooryamangalamMay there be tranquility in the skyMay there be tranquility in the sunChandramangalam, JagatmangalamMay there be tranquility on the moonMay there be tranquility on our planetJeevamangalam, DehamangalamMay there be tranquility in all living beingsMay there be tranquility in the bodyManomangalam, AatmanmangalamMay there be tranquility in the mind andMay there be tranquility in the spiritSarvamangalam BhavatuSarvamangalam BhavatuSarvamangalam BhavatuMay that tranquility be everywhere and in everyone.BY Ravi Shankar, Chants of India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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