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Interesting to note

that when this alignment of consciousness & physical paralysis

occurs to me

I always sense some foreign presence...

Usually in the form of an intruder breaking into

the physical space I am sleeping at.

Dear David,

Fascinating gadget! :))

Krishnamurti often mentions this presence in his *Krishnamurti's

Notebook.* He writes: "That presence which ...was there, waiting

patiently, benignly, with great tenderness. It was like the

lightening on a dark night but it was there, penetrating, blissful."

and later: "...woke up in the middle of the night, with the

otherness in the room. It was there with great intensity, not only

filling the room and beyond but it was there deep down within the

brain, so profoundly that it seemed to go through and beyond all

thought, space and time." p. 114

What I have found especially interesting is that what seems to be the

same phenomena of otherness and catalepsy can be felt by different

people as either immensely terrifying or unbelievably ecstatic and

blissful.

This experience sucks

even more so because of the fact

I am literally physically paralyzed

(thanks to the 'genius' of evolutional hard-wiring).

Is it frightening because you feel out of control?

This lovely experience happens regularly to me

once or twice a month.

It happens to me virtually nightly. Amazing stuff. Almost always

blissful, but sometimes there are moments of fear. Is it the same

experience, I wonder?

I know I am not unusual with regard to having these types of experiences.

Over time

I actually figured out what is going on.

The question, though, is what put god in the human brain in the first

place. Or is it that we are all made of god stuff. And why is it

pure pleasure to one and terror to another? And sometimes both :))

<snip>

One of the more interesting things he found

while poking people's brains

(electromagnectically)

is that there is a region in all of our brains

that when stimulated

elicits an experience

that there is an 'other' present in the room.

<snip>

Furthermore,

I must inform you at this point

that all people poked electromagnetically

with this amazing brain helmet

in the particular region of our brain

that makes us respond to

and experience some imaginary presence

of an 'other'

are also flooded with a sense of fear.

This I find very curious.

It is frightening

to say the least.

But not to some of us. Why I wonder. Is it a different section of

the brain that is activated? or is it how we translate the

experience.

Love, Hillary

I have my own personal theory regarding this

hard-wired button in all of our heads.

It has to do with duality

and the essential

need

an organism in a dualistic environment

must possess in order to survive.

And further

furthermore

I will somehow tie

this intuition of mine

into my regular dream experiences

of dreaming my physical environment

in a state of paralysis

while some 'other' is breaking into my

house as I struggle but can not move.

And further,

further

"On waking this morning, there was that strange immobility of the body

and of the brain; with it came a movement of entering into

unfathomable depths of intensity and of great bliss and there was

that otherness." p. 58

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Druout (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Dear

David,

Fascinating gadget!

:))

Yeah, should give the video game companies a run for their money.

What

I have found especially interesting is that what seems to be the same phenomena

of otherness and catalepsy can be felt by different people as either immensely

terrifying or unbelievably ecstatic and blissful.

I don't doubt that.

Is

it frightening because you feel out of control?

The paralysis intersecting with consciousness in and of itself is not so

frightening.

It's the fact that I dream an intruder is breaking into the house while

not being able to move.

It

happens to me virtually nightly. Amazing stuff. Almost always

blissful, but sometimes there are moments of fear. Is it the same

experience, I wonder?

Same neuro-conscious phenomena, yes.

The

question, though, is what put god in the human brain in the first place.

We could start a list on just that topic. :)

Regardless what anyone feels

inclined to say in response to that query

one should realizefirst that whatever one's response is,

it will always be a myth.

(which is fine as all personal/transpersonal experience is a type of

myth)

Or

is it that we are all made of god stuff.

I'd say stuffing with croutons.

And

why is it pure pleasure to one and terror to another?

Somehow I sense you already know the answer to that one.

It has to do with our reaction to it.

And

sometimes both :))

Fear/pleasure.

Same difference.

all

people poked electromagnetically

with this amazing

brain helmet

in the particular

region of our brain

that makes us

respond to

and experience

some imaginary presence

of an 'other'

are also flooded

with a sense of fear.

This I find very

curious.

I'd imagine some subjects could experience it as blissful.

You seem like a likely candidate.

But

not to some of us. Why I wonder. Is it a different section

of the brain that is activated? or is it how we translate the experience.

I'm not lucid when it happens to me

so I really believe there's an intruder and I can't move.

Were I lucid I sense

it could be experienced as blissful.

I thought about that before.

I suppose one could train oneself to be ready for it

and to recognize the state as such in waking life

by using similar techniques used to

lucid dream.

I lucid dream regularly but it's never fearful

by virtue of the fact that I'm *lucid*.

As a child I always sensed a presence

when I was alone.

I used to think it was spirits

and I'd encounter them in the eyes open/body paralyzed state.

When I experienced spontaneous unitive conscious at 21

it became clear It is just who I am. :)

Thanx for asking,

David

"On waking this

morning, there was that strange immobility of the body and of the brain;

with it came a movement of entering into unfathomable depths of intensity

and of great bliss and there was that otherness." p. 58

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