Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 There were 3 good arguments that Jesus was Black 1. He called everyone "brother" 2. He liked Gospel 3. He couldn't get a fair trial But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish: 1. He went into His Fathers business 2. He lived at home until he was 33 3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his mother was sure he was God. But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Italian: 1. He talked with his hands 2. He had wine with every meal 3. He used olive oil But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was a Californian: 1. He never cut his hair 2. He walked around barefoot all the time 3. He started a new religion But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Irish: 1. He never got married 2. He was always telling stories 3. He loved green pastures But the most compelling evidence of all - 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman: 1. He had to feed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was no food 2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it 3. Even when he was dead, He had to get up because there was more work for Him to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Oh, David, how I love you. You are such a bad bad boy!!! Thanks for a good laugh. There is nothing like laughter to provide its own special contentment and bliss. So there!!! > But the most compelling evidence of all - > 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman: > 1. He had to feed a crowd at a moment's notice when > there was no food > 2. He kept trying to get a message across to a > bunch of men who just didn't get it > 3. Even when he was dead, He had to get up because > there was more work for Him to do > > > > /join > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Jesus however did do more for womens rights than any religios leader from His day till now. He talked to a samaritan woman which was forbidden by jewish men on two accounts,, Number one guys could not talk to girls in public and number two jews could not talk to samaritans at all Jesus started womens rights and liberties and gave a good example of how to respect other nationalities and races at the same time there are many other instances where Jesus did such things, and you can read them in God's Holy word. The Bible thanx grayd --- Lady Joyce <ladyjoy wrote: > Oh, David, how I love you. You are such a bad bad > boy!!! Thanks for a good > laugh. There is nothing like laughter to provide > its own special > contentment and bliss. So there!!! > > > But the most compelling evidence of all - > > 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman: > > 1. He had to feed a crowd at a moment's notice > when > > there was no food > > 2. He kept trying to get a message across to a > > bunch of men who just didn't get it > > 3. Even when he was dead, He had to get up because > > there was more work for Him to do > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 , grady little <gradyll> wrote: > Jesus however did do more for womens rights than any > religios leader from His day till now. > > > He talked to a samaritan woman which was forbidden by > jewish men on two accounts,, > > Number one guys could not talk to girls in public > and number two jews could not talk to samaritans at > all > > Jesus started womens rights and liberties and gave a > good example of how to respect other nationalities and > races at the same time > > there are many other instances where Jesus did such > things, and you can read them in God's Holy word. > > The Bible > > thanx > grayd Namaste, At Jesus's time there were Pharisees, Sadducees, both Judaic, and then there were Samaritans, Essenes and others. Jesus came from a non Judaic background or Essenic. Jew refers to a follower of Judaism, not necessarily a Hebrew.........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 , "saktidasa <saktidasa>" <saktidasa> wrote: > , grady little <gradyll> > wrote: > > Jesus however did do more for womens rights than any > > religios leader from His day till now. > > > > > > He talked to a samaritan woman which was forbidden by > > jewish men on two accounts,, > > > > Number one guys could not talk to girls in public > > and number two jews could not talk to samaritans at > > all > > > > Jesus started womens rights and liberties and gave a > > good example of how to respect other nationalities and > > races at the same time > > > > there are many other instances where Jesus did such > > things, and you can read them in God's Holy word. > > > > The Bible > > > > thanx > > grayd > > Namaste, > > At Jesus's time there were Pharisees, Sadducees, both Judaic, and > then there were Samaritans, Essenes and others. > > Jesus came from a non Judaic background or Essenic. Jew refers to a > follower of Judaism, not necessarily a Hebrew.........ONS...Tony. Namaste, Further Samaritans were a mixture of people that didn't go to Babylon and so did not become part of the revamped Judaism from Babylon. Being Jewish or Judaic is a religion not a racial group, anymore than say Catholic is. In fact 80-90% of Jewish people do not have a strong Hebraic connection at all. In Israel the majority are Ashkenazim, who are a mixture of essentially khazars(Turkic) and europeans. The minority excepting falashas are Sephardic or middle eastern and more likely to be of Heraic descent. Truth in these matters would save a lot of problems.........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:21:12 -0000 "saktidasa <saktidasa" <saktidasa writes: > , grady little <gradyll> > wrote: > > Jesus however did do more for womens rights than any > > religios leader from His day till now. > > > > > > He talked to a samaritan woman which was forbidden by > > jewish men on two accounts,, > > > > Number one guys could not talk to girls in public > > and number two jews could not talk to samaritans at > > all > > > > Jesus started womens rights and liberties and gave a > > good example of how to respect other nationalities and > > races at the same time > > > > there are many other instances where Jesus did such > > things, and you can read them in God's Holy word. > > > > The Bible > > > > thanx > > grayd > > Namaste, > > At Jesus's time there were Pharisees, Sadducees, both Judaic, and > then there were Samaritans, Essenes and others. You've mixed figs and dates here, Tony -- "Samaritans" is an ancient ethnicity, "Essenes" refers to a philosophy and way of life with no ethnic implications. > > Jesus came from a non Judaic background or Essenic. Yet he was supposedly bar mitzvahed and very learned in the Torah. Afaik the Essenes were quite Judaic, although of course not necessarily Hebrew Semites ethnically and very different philosophically from the (in Jesus' time) predominant sects, those being the Sadducees and (terribly defamed in the Gospels imo) Pharisees. > Jew refers to a follower of Judaism, Correct, although to many it also implies ethnicity and culture(s). > not necessarily a Hebrew.........ONS...Tony. > Yes, most modern-day Jews have only a small trace (if any) of the ancient Hebrews in their physical lineage. http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Jesus didn't found any religion. As a shaman - or an ascended master - names varies, he claimed that he fullfilled *the law* instead of opposing it. Our current justice system is a demonic echo from then. Today we have our judges and Directors of Public Prosecutions. They are so criminal themselves that if we should publish photos of criminals, the size of the photos should correspond with the performed crime. So that NASA would be contacted in order to raise large images of Directors of Public Prosecutions on airplane landing places, while those stealing in shops would be delegated so small photos that even WITH a microscope it would be difficult to see the shapes of human figures. When Jesus rebuked the *priests*, he didn't rebuke religion only. He rebuked the public prosecutors of his days, and called them *worms*. Since religion and justice was interwoven. Even a short glimpse on the *justice system* is enough to recognize its insanity. When Jesus said he was the *Son of God*, it was actually an expansion of the concept that WE are the children of God - and not the hypocrits in the justice system who elevates themselves as *gods*. San Divas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Right On! , "Magne Aga" <magneaga@m...> wrote: > > Jesus didn't found any religion. > As a shaman - or an ascended master - names varies, he claimed that he > fullfilled *the law* instead of opposing it. > > Our current justice system is a demonic echo from then. Today we have our > judges and Directors of Public Prosecutions. They are so criminal themselves > that if we should publish photos of criminals, the size of the photos should > correspond with the performed crime. So that NASA would be contacted in > order to raise large images of Directors of Public Prosecutions on airplane > landing places, while those stealing in shops would be delegated so small > photos that even WITH a microscope it would be difficult to see the shapes > of human figures. > > When Jesus rebuked the *priests*, he didn't rebuke religion only. He rebuked > the public prosecutors of his days, and called them *worms*. Since religion > and justice was interwoven. > Even a short glimpse on the *justice system* is enough to recognize its > insanity. When Jesus said he was the *Son of God*, it was actually an > expansion of the concept that WE are the children of God - and not the > hypocrits in the justice system who elevates themselves as *gods*. > > San Divas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:21:12 -0000 "saktidasa <saktidasa>" > <saktidasa> writes: > > , grady little <gradyll> > > wrote: > > > Jesus however did do more for womens rights than any > > > religios leader from His day till now. > > > > > > > > > He talked to a samaritan woman which was forbidden by > > > jewish men on two accounts,, > > > > > > Number one guys could not talk to girls in public > > > and number two jews could not talk to samaritans at > > > all > > > > > > Jesus started womens rights and liberties and gave a > > > good example of how to respect other nationalities and > > > races at the same time > > > > > > there are many other instances where Jesus did such > > > things, and you can read them in God's Holy word. > > > > > > The Bible > > > > > > thanx > > > grayd > > > > Namaste, > > > > At Jesus's time there were Pharisees, Sadducees, both Judaic, and > > then there were Samaritans, Essenes and others. > > You've mixed figs and dates > here, Tony -- "Samaritans" > is an ancient ethnicity, > "Essenes" refers to a > philosophy and way of life > with no ethnic implications. > > > > Jesus came from a non Judaic background or Essenic. > > Yet he was supposedly bar > mitzvahed and very learned > in the Torah. Afaik the > Essenes were quite Judaic, > although of course not > necessarily Hebrew Semites > ethnically and very > different philosophically > from the (in Jesus' time) > predominant sects, those > being the Sadducees and > (terribly defamed in the > Gospels imo) Pharisees. > > > > Jew refers to a follower of Judaism, > > Correct, although to many > it also implies ethnicity > and culture(s). > > > not necessarily a Hebrew.........ONS...Tony. > > > Yes, most modern-day Jews > have only a small trace > (if any) of the ancient > Hebrews in their physical > lineage. Namaste, Samaritans were both a religion and a mix of ethnicity. Jesus probably was learned in the law, I was differentiating between Hebrew and Judaic follower. In fact it would be more correct to say that Jesus came from an Essenic background as opposed to him being an Essene. Like all mystics he was universal. The Essenes themselves were a diverse lot and then there were the Zealots as well. Yes the Pharisees were somewhat defamed but they themselves had their differences with the Saducees as well. There were also the priest beholding to Herod and those who were essentially collaborating with the Romans, for whatever reason. The Gospels are rather selective and many texts are omitted. James the brother of Jesus, ( there was another brother Jude and a sister Ruth), took over the 'Jewish Christians', or Palestinian Church and Paul or Saul was a rival somewhat with his Hellenistic Christianity. As with all mystics Jesus taught but didn't form any organisation, that seemed to have arose later as a natural evolvement, similar to how Guru followers are today........ONS.......Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Lady Joyce politely agrees...well, sort of... She adjusts her veil, so white and free. She picks up her fluffy skirts so she can see... Last time she did not look, she slid across the floor smack into, um, Hawaii:-) And got herself into lots trouble with Sri E. She dances around the room times three Chanting over over over 108 times... Yeeeeeeesssssssssssssss!!! Yeeeeeeessssssssssssssss!!! Yeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss!!! Siree, I mean, Sri, or is it Shree? Be Gone From Us, Lex Talonis!!! Hail to you, Bobby G. and Magne Aga, or is it San Divas? OM, shaantiH, shaantiH, shaantiH May all beings live in peace and harmony > Right On! Thank you, Bobby G, I knew ye would agree!!! > > > , "Magne Aga" <magneaga@m...> > wrote: > > > > Jesus didn't found any religion. > > As a shaman - or an ascended master - names varies, he claimed that > he > > fullfilled *the law* instead of opposing it. > > > > Our current justice system is a demonic echo from then. Today we > have our > > judges and Directors of Public Prosecutions. They are so criminal > themselves > > that if we should publish photos of criminals, the size of the > photos should > > correspond with the performed crime. So that NASA would be > contacted in > > order to raise large images of Directors of Public Prosecutions on > airplane > > landing places, while those stealing in shops would be delegated so > small > > photos that even WITH a microscope it would be difficult to see the > shapes > > of human figures. > > > > When Jesus rebuked the *priests*, he didn't rebuke religion only. > He rebuked > > the public prosecutors of his days, and called them *worms*. Since > religion > > and justice was interwoven. > > Even a short glimpse on the *justice system* is enough to recognize > its > > insanity. When Jesus said he was the *Son of God*, it was actually > an > > expansion of the concept that WE are the children of God - and not > the > > hypocrits in the justice system who elevates themselves as *gods*. > > > > San Divas > > > /join > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 we must respect the governing authorities over us, even Jesus openly ok'd taxation when He said, "give to Caesar what is ceasar's" Also the Bible says, "He who doesn't work, neither shall He eat." and many more patriotic and hard working ethics are seen in God's Holy Word. The Bible. But the Bible says to follow the Government only while the Government remains in it's jourestiction. But if the government directly opposes Biblical Christianity, then the Bible says to "live is Christ, to die is gain!" God is our ultimate authority. The Bible is our ultimate source of right and wrong, in a wrong world. You can legislate the Bible out of schools, but you can never silence the cries of God's Children!!!! --- Lady Joyce <ladyjoy wrote: > Lady Joyce politely agrees...well, sort of... > She adjusts her veil, so white and free. > She picks up her fluffy skirts so she can see... > Last time she did not look, > she slid across the floor smack into, um, Hawaii:-) > And got herself into lots trouble with Sri E. > > She dances around the room times three > Chanting over over over 108 times... > Yeeeeeeesssssssssssssss!!! > Yeeeeeeessssssssssssssss!!! > Yeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss!!! > Siree, I mean, Sri, or is it Shree? > > Be Gone From Us, Lex Talonis!!! > > Hail to you, Bobby G. and Magne Aga, or is it San > Divas? > > > OM, shaantiH, shaantiH, shaantiH > May all beings live in peace and harmony > > > Right On! > > Thank you, Bobby G, I knew ye would agree!!! > > > > > > > > > > > , "Magne Aga" > <magneaga@m...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Jesus didn't found any religion. > > > As a shaman - or an ascended master - names > varies, he claimed that > > he > > > fullfilled *the law* instead of opposing it. > > > > > > Our current justice system is a demonic echo > from then. Today we > > have our > > > judges and Directors of Public Prosecutions. > They are so criminal > > themselves > > > that if we should publish photos of criminals, > the size of the > > photos should > > > correspond with the performed crime. So that > NASA would be > > contacted in > > > order to raise large images of Directors of > Public Prosecutions on > > airplane > > > landing places, while those stealing in shops > would be delegated so > > small > > > photos that even WITH a microscope it would be > difficult to see the > > shapes > > > of human figures. > > > > > > When Jesus rebuked the *priests*, he didn't > rebuke religion only. > > He rebuked > > > the public prosecutors of his days, and called > them *worms*. Since > > religion > > > and justice was interwoven. > > > Even a short glimpse on the *justice system* is > enough to recognize > > its > > > insanity. When Jesus said he was the *Son of > God*, it was actually > > an > > > expansion of the concept that WE are the > children of God - and not > > the > > > hypocrits in the justice system who elevates > themselves as *gods*. > > > > > > San Divas > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 , "Lady Joyce" <ladyjoy@v...> wrote: > Lady Joyce politely agrees...well, sort of... > OM, shaantiH, shaantiH, shaantiH > May all beings live in peace and harmony > > > Right On! > > Thank you, Bobby G, I knew ye would agree!!! > > , "Magne Aga" <magneaga@m...> > Our current justice system is a demonic echo from then. Today we > > have our judges and Directors of Public Prosecutions. They are so criminal themselves I remember when I was a kid and we played football. We had to have a referee so one kid had to stay out of the game. Of Course in the game you always had the cool kids against the dorks. Now I was referee a few times and I remember how hard it is to make a call against the cool kids. There is a lot of pressure. The problem was also that the cool kids took it for granted they would get their way against the dorks and the dorks took it for granted that the cool kids would get their way. We all know how it is. by 1950 the steel, oil, and electric motor manufacturers in this country were convicted on numerous counts of Price Fixing. The judges let them go with little if any penalties. These base industries influenced the entire economy. by 1959,65 of the top 70 corporations were convicted for the same thing but not punished. If any one wants to read a real horror story of the abuse of America read "The Rich and Super Rich" by Ferdinand Lundberg,1969. Love Bobby G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 , grady little <gradyll> wrote: > we must respect the governing authorities over us, > even Jesus openly ok'd taxation when He said, "give to > Caesar what is ceasar's" Also the Bible says, "He who > doesn't work, neither shall He eat." and many more > patriotic and hard working ethics are seen in God's > Holy Word Namaste, The give unto caesar bit, was Jesus avoiding making a treasonable remark. He was talking of spirituality and materialism really. The Bible cannot be taken as accurate it has been interloped, rewritten etc etc. God does't need a word to be written down, He can speak directly to your mind. The Bible is written by men only,,,,Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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