covering the true nature with concepts

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A "Dzogchen" verse

"Understand well, Sattvavajra! In the terms of the source, the root

of allphenomena, there is no such things as an observor and an object

to observe.Whosoever understands the essence without deeming it the

object of the viewunderstands my nature.Listen! All the phenomena of

existence, without exception, abide in thesupreme source in a

condition of birthlessness. Let those want tounderstand the

fundamental meaning understand my nature!Were I not to teach this

definitive teaching, the posterity of the supremesource, who is the

forebear of the enlightened ones, would be interrupted,and everybody

would continue to transmigrate.Listen! Thus, Sattvavajra, overcome

the idea of having or not having a view.As having a view means

covering the true nature with concepts, do not baseyour understanding

on the view of cause and effect!In the atiyoga vehicle in which

nothing is confirmed, trying to observe andexamine the true nature

amounts to interupting perception of it. Thus,understand that the

true meaning of the source, the unaltered essence,cannot be perceived

by basing oneself on a view.Listen! I the supreme source, pure and

total consciousness, am the mirror inwhich all phenomena are

reflected. Although lacking self-nature, everythingmanifests

clearly; without need for a view, the nature shines

clear.Understanding that the essential unborn condition is not an

object toobserve dualistically is the great understanding!" The

Supreme SourceThe Fundamental Tantra of the Dzogchen Semde Kunjed

GyalpoTranslated by Chogyal Namkai Norbuand Adriano Clemente

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Thanks for sharing Gloria.

 

A "Dzogchen" verse

 

"Understanding that the essential unborn condition is

not an object to observe dualistically is the great

understanding!"

 

This is the same as the saying in Advaita that,

 

"Self can never be an object to itSelf."

 

Advaita and Dzogchen are not two!

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

--- Gloria Lee <glee wrote:

> A "Dzogchen" verse

>

>

>

> "Understand well, Sattvavajra! In the terms of the

> source, the root of all

> phenomena, there is no such things as an observor

> and an object to observe.

> Whosoever understands the essence without deeming it

> the object of the view

> understands my nature.

>

> Listen! All the phenomena of existence, without

> exception, abide in the

> supreme source in a condition of birthlessness. Let

> those want to

> understand the fundamental meaning understand my

> nature!

>

> Were I not to teach this definitive teaching, the

> posterity of the supreme

> source, who is the forebear of the enlightened ones,

> would be interrupted,

> and everybody would continue to transmigrate.

>

> Listen! Thus, Sattvavajra, overcome the idea of

> having or not having a view.

> As having a view means covering the true nature with

> concepts, do not base

> your understanding on the view of cause and effect!

>

> In the atiyoga vehicle in which nothing is

> confirmed, trying to observe and

> examine the true nature amounts to interupting

> perception of it. Thus,

> understand that the true meaning of the source, the

> unaltered essence,

> cannot be perceived by basing oneself on a view.

>

> Listen! I the supreme source, pure and total

> consciousness, am the mirror in

> which all phenomena are reflected. Although lacking

> self-nature, everything

> manifests clearly; without need for a view, the

> nature shines clear.

> Understanding that the essential unborn condition is

> not an object to

> observe dualistically is the great understanding!"

>

> The Supreme Source

> The Fundamental Tantra of the Dzogchen Semde

> Kunjed Gyalpo

> Translated by Chogyal Namkai Norbu

> and Adriano Clemente

 

 

 

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