Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Dearest Harshaji, Thanks for this post on surrender. The part about early inquiry and age being no barrier to realization was very well-received. I added some wonderful words from Sri Ramana at the end of it. Perhaps I might post it at nondualparent… You wrote: Typically, we find that those who shine and excel in a field of study have started early in life. Prodigies in Mathematics, Music, and Chess discover their talents as children. Sill they spent many years in practice and perfecting their talent.If we look at the spiritual geniuses, the same pattern appears to be true as well.Shankra, Ramana, Jnaneshvar, and others, all became intensely interested at a young age about the mystery of existence and realized the Self - Nature. However, age is not a major barrier to Realization, if one has clarity of purpose.Study of scriptures, and reflecting on words of wise is good. According to the testimony of sages, that the role of spiritual practice and long term meditation is an important one as wellJust like one does not become a body builder by simply reading books on the subject, one cannot know One's Own Beauty, by merely hearing others speak of it. It has to be recognized directly by oneself (without the medium of the mind) in a state that may be described as the Deep Awake (as opposed to Deep Sleep!). The Self is Realized when everything, including one's root instinct for self preservation is given up with full awareness of the grace of the Lord of the Heart.To reach that point where all can be surrendered, one practices meditation, prayer, inquiry, etc. Sri Ramana has said that Self is nothing new to Realize. We are already that. Spiritual practice is meant to remove the obstacles that obscure one's vision of one's own Self.Love to allHarsha "True surrender is love of God for the sake of love and nothing else, not even for the sake of liberation. Love itself is the actual form of God. That is pure bliss. Call it pure bliss, God, Self, or what you will. That is devotion, that is realization and that is everything. The experience of not forgetting consciousness alone is the state of devotion which is the relationship of unfading real love, because the real knowledge of Self, which shines as the undivided supreme bliss itself, surges up as the nature of love. Only if one knows the truth of love, which is the nature of the Self, will the strong entangled knot of life be untied. Only if one attains the height of love will liberation be attained. The experience of Self is only love, which is seeing only love, hearing only love, feeling only love, tasting only love and smelling only love, and this is bliss. God does not reside in any place other than the Heart. Be sure that the heart is the Kingdom of Heaven."..."Reality is at once being and consciousness.To know that is to be that in the heart, transcending thought.That which is bliss is verily the Self.Bliss and the Self are one and identical.That alone is Real.That alone is the real truth.That is the heart.That which is the source of all,That in which all live, and that intowhich all finally merge, is the heart.In the interior of the heart-cave (there)shines alone the one absolute as the "I - I",verily the consciousness - Self.What is called the heart is no other than the absolute.Call it by any name, God, Self, the Heart or Seat of Consciousness,it is all the same.The beloved heart alone is the refuge for the rising and subsidingof the "I".The heart is the center of all. That from which beings comeinto existence is said to be the absolute. That is the heart.The absolute is the heart.The Self is the heart.The heart is the center from which everything springs.The heart is the "Kingdom of God".~Sri Ramana from "Absolute Consciousness" - Ramana Maharshi Centre for Learning "If we talk of knowing the Self, there must be two selves, one a knowing self, another the self which is known, and the process of knowing. The state we call realisation is simply being oneself, not knowing anything or becoming anything. If one has realised, one is that which alone is andwhich alone has always been. One cannot describe that state.One can only be that. Of course, we loosely talk of Self-realisation, for want of a better term. How to 'real-ise'or make real that which alone is real? Liberation is our very nature. We are that. The very factthat we wish for liberation shows that freedom from allbondage is our real nature. It is not to be freshly acquired.All that is necessary is to get rid of the false notion that weare bound. When we achieve that, there will be no desireor thought of any sort. So long as one desires liberation,so long, you may take it, one is in bondage. Mukti or liberation is our nature. It is another name for us.Our wanting mukti is a very funny thing. It is like a man whois in the shade, voluntarily leaving the shade, going into the sun,feeling the severity of the heat there, making great efforts to getback to the shade and then rejoicing, "How sweet is the shade!I have reached the shade at last!" We are all doing exactly thesame. We are not different from the reality. We imagine we aredifferent, that is we create the bheda bhava [the feeling ofdifference] and then undergo great sadhana [spiritual practices]to get rid of the bheda bhava and realise the oneness. Whyimagine or create bheda bhava and then destroy it? We think that there is something hiding ourreality and that it must be destroyed before thereality is gained. It is ridiculous. A day will dawnwhen you will yourself laugh at your past efforts.That which will be on the day you laugh is alsohere and now."~Sri Ramana Maharshi"Be As You Are"The Teachings of Sri Ramana Marharshiedited by David GodmanArkana, 1985 LoveAlways, MazieAdd photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Thanks Mazie for these wonderful quotes from Sri Ramana. Love to all Harsha , "Mazie Lane" <sraddha54@h...> wrote: > "True surrender is love of God for the sake of love and nothing else, not even for the sake of liberation. Love itself is the actual form of God. That is pure bliss. Call it pure bliss, God, Self, or what you will. That is devotion, that is realization and that is everything. The experience of not forgetting consciousness alone is the state of devotion which is the relationship of unfading real love, because the real knowledge of Self, which shines as the undivided supreme bliss itself, surges up as the nature of love. Only if one knows the truth of love, which is the nature of the Self, will the strong entangled knot of life be untied. Only if one attains the height of love will liberation be attained. The experience of Self is only love, which is seeing only love, hearing only love, feeling only love, tasting only love and smelling only love, and this is bliss. God does not reside in any place other than the Heart. Be sure that the heart is the Kingdom of Heaven." ...."Reality is at once being and consciousness. To know that is to be that in the heart, transcending thought. That which is bliss is verily the Self. Bliss and the Self are one and identical. That alone is Real. That alone is the real truth. That is the heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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