Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 CONFLUENCE OF INDIGENOUS CULTURES WORLD COUNCIL OF ELDERS OF ANCIENT TRADITIONS AND CULTURES and the GATHERING OF ELDERS was a real "SAMSKRITI SANGAM" or cultural gathering. It lived up to its name as more than 180 traditional Elders and scholars from 4o traditions from around the globe came together for the first time in Bharat (Ancient Vedic name for India). All decided to work unitedly in the future. A common declaration called "Mumbai Manifesto" was released to the public by the WCEA TC that' carries the common message from the Elders & cultural scholars. The conference in Mumbai(British name of Bombay) was held in the picturesque Keshav Srushti and Rambhall Mhalagi Prabodhini. Baba I.ouris Samphil. an Orisa Elder from Trinidad called it a 'gathering planned by the divinity'-. Nature in its full bounty' added to the cheerflll mood of the Elders gathering. The inaugural function was marked by the colorfulk costumes the Elders dressed themselves in, and that left the local media agog to see such a vivid canvass (If Cultures and costumes. The journalists all wanted to talk to everybody present there, interview them, to get their pictures, and get them on their TV channels. Some of the elders who spoke at the inaugural function expressed their joy all did not miss to mention that this is a gathering of "Dharati putras",(Children of the Earth, Eng Dirt comes from the Sanskrit word Dharti or Earth) the term they used ; again and again. AII these traditions believe In the 'mother earth' and are Nature Worshippers j All stressed the need to preserve the diversity of the traditions of the World. Emphasized was the need for the Indigenous traditions to come together for bringing peace in times of war and terrorism. The first session of all the following days of the conference were devoted to the demonstration of ceremonies of different traditions. Truly speaking it is beyond words to describe the moments as many traditions performed their own versions Yagya or fire worship with their own rituals and rites and chanting their own hymns. CONFLUENCE OF INDIGENOUS CULTURES WORLD COUNCIL OF ELDERS OF ANCIENT TRADITIONS AND CULTURES and the GATHERING OF ELDERS was a real "SAMSKRITI SANGAM" or cultural gathering. It lived up to its name as more than 180 traditional Elders and scholars from 4o traditions from around the globe came together for the first time in Bharat (Ancient Vedic name for India). All decided to work unitedly in the future. A common declaration called "Mumbai Manifesto" was released to the public by the WCEA TC that' carries the common message from the Elders & cultural scholars. The conference in Mumbai(British name of Bombay) was held in the picturesque Keshav Srushti and Rambhall Mhalagi Prabodhini. Baba I.ouris Samphil. an Orisa Elder from Trinidad called it a 'gathering planned by the divinity'-. Nature in its full bounty' added to the cheerflll mood of the Elders gathering. The inaugural function was marked by the colorfulk costumes the Elders dressed themselves in, and that left the local media agog to see such a vivid canvass (If Cultures and costumes. The journalists all wanted to talk to everybody present there, interview them, to get their pictures, and get them on their TV channels. Some of the elders who spoke at the inaugural function expressed their joy all did not miss to mention that this is a gathering of "Dharati putras",(Children of the Earth, Eng Dirt comes from the Sanskrit word Dharti or Earth) the term they used ; again and again. AII these traditions believe In the 'mother earth' and are Nature Worshippers j All stressed the need to preserve the diversity of the traditions of the World. Emphasized was the need for the Indigenous traditions to come together for bringing peace in times of war and terrorism. The first session of all the following days of the conference were devoted to the demonstration of ceremonies of different traditions. Truly speaking it is beyond words to describe the moments as many traditions performed their own versions Yagya or fire worship with their own rituals and rites and chanting their own hymns. Representatives from the Pagan traditions of Europe, the Caribs from the Caribbean, the American indians from the Americas, are some of those that thrilled everybody present. iTribal groups from the North Eastern states of 'Bharat=India like Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram. Meghalaya excelled the audience with their performances. On the last day, morning groups from the Arunachal Pradesh Tribes performed the scintillating "Sun \\'orship". The proceedings of the conference have been published in a 2 volume set. The conference has passed a resolution named "The Mumhai Manifesto" that chalks out the future course of action for the World council of Elders. The participants were thrilled to be part of the Amercan indian traditional "Sweat Lodge" on 8th, Febrllary late night. This traditional experience was organized specially by the Amerindian Elders who constructed a semi-circular hut in which red hot sacred stones were put in a pit and water was offered to the divinityThe door of the hut was shut and the participants inside the hut offered worship .to their own traditional deities through the heat and sweat that was generated inside the hut This was the first known "Sweat Lodge" performed in Bharat=India and is a lifetime experience. The conference addressed in no uncertain terms the issue of religious conversions and this is mentioned in the Mumbai Manifesto". The conference ended \with a grand validectory function addressed by his Holiness Acharya Mahapragnya of the Anuvrat Movement and Dr. Shankar Tattwavadi. the Pracharak In charge of. The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh in countries ~ outside India. Some of the Delegates participated in a pre- conference tourHaridwar. Rishikesh, Delhi, Jaipur. Agra, Mathura. Vrindavan.etc. The visitors were very much thrilled to be onn the banks of Sacred River Mother Ganga. They offered their prayers as a majority of the Elders were worshipped Water as sacred and Divine. The next conference of the World Council of Elders of Ancient Traditions and Cultures will be held at Washington DC USA from 13th of July to 16th of July 2006. - <> <> Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:47 AM Digest Number 2091 > > /join > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > ------ > > There are 17 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Next time > "stillpointed" <eea > 2. The not so popular Canadian Goose, where they belong : ) > "Al Larus" <alarus > 3. Re: Next time > shawn <shawn > 4. Leonard Peltier: win the war to end terrorism by understanding spiritual unity > David Bozzi <david.bozzi > 5. Re: Next time > "ginkomimosah" <ginkomimosah > 6. Re: Next time > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > 7. Re: Next time > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > 8. Re: Next time > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > 9. Re: The not so popular Canadian Goose, where they belong : ) > "Dale and Carol Wade" <caroldalewade > 10. File - > > 11. Patanjali #7 > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > 12. Re: The anser > "know_mystery" <know_mystery > 13. Re: Patanjali #7 > "know_mystery" <know_mystery > 14. [Fwd: The Dalai Lama on war and the Iraq conflict] > Harsha > 15. Re: Re: Next time > "AYN" <ayezzi > 16. Re: Re: Next time > "AnneChris" <am009a8716 > 17. Re: Next time > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:47:06 -0000 > "stillpointed" <eea > Re: Next time > > , "texasbg2000" > <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote: > > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to become the > > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really popular so I > > can use it the next time I am born along with the other children so > > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this time > > around. > > > > Love > > Bobby G. > > OK Bobby, take a good look at this: > > http://iisd1.iisd.ca/pcdf/civilsociety/path.htm > > Love and peace to you. Ed > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Tue, 1 Apr 2003 00:15:40 +0200 > "Al Larus" <alarus > The not so popular Canadian Goose, where they belong : ) > > > > > > > > > This one is standing still, frozen, waiting fro me to make a move. > > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:14:09 -1000 > shawn <shawn > Re: Next time > > on 3/30/03 5:04 AM, texasbg2000 at Bigbobgraham wrote: > > > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to become the > > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really popular so I > > can use it the next time I am born along with the other children so > > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this time > > around. > > > > Love > > Bobby G. > > > D: Why then is samsara- creation and manifestation as finitised- so full of > sorrow and evil? > > M: God's will! > > D: Why does God will it so? > > M: It is inscrutable. No motive can be attributed to that Power- no desire, > no end to achieve can be asserted of that one Infinite, All-wise and > All-powerful Being. God is untouched by activities, which take place in His > presence; compare the sun and the world activities. There is no meaning in > attributing responsibility and motive to the One before it becomes many. But > God's will for the prescribed course of events is a good solution of the > free-will problem (vexata quaestio). If the mind is restless on account of a > sense of the imperfect and unsatisfactory character of what befalls us or > what is committed or ommitted by us, then it is wise to drop the sense of > responsibilty and free-will by regarding ourselves as the ordained > instuments of the All-wise and All-powerful, to do and suffer as He pleases. > He carries all burdens and gives us peace. > > from Talks > > )))))Shawn > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:13:35 -0500 > David Bozzi <david.bozzi > Leonard Peltier: win the war to end terrorism by understanding spiritual unity > > 15Mar03 -- Leonard Peltier, American Indian spiritual leader: > > "Understanding our spiritual unity will win the war to end terrorism" > > http://www.freeleonardpeltier.org/leonardpeltiermessageofpeace3152003.htm > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:55:34 -0000 > "ginkomimosah" <ginkomimosah > Re: Next time > > In , "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham@a...> > wrote: > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to become the > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really popular so I > can use it the next time I am born along with the other children so > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this time > around. > > Love > Bobby G. > > "MY HEART LEAPS UP WHEN I BEHOLD" > by William Wordsworth 1802 > > My heart leaps up when I behold > A rainbow in the sky: > So was it when my life began; > So is it now I am a man; > So be it when I shall grow old, > Or let me die! > The Child is father of the Man; > I could wish my days to be > Bound each to each by natural piety. > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:34:44 -0000 > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > Re: Next time > > , "stillpointed" <eea@a...> > wrote: > > , "texasbg2000" > > <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote: > > > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to become > the > > > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really popular so > I > > > can use it the next time I am born along with the other children > so > > > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this time > > > around. > > > > > > Love > > > Bobby G. > > > > OK Bobby, take a good look at this: > > > > http://iisd1.iisd.ca/pcdf/civilsociety/path.htm > > Hi Ed: > > Not too much there I was not familiar with. It is all political and > I was referring to something I can do as a discipline. For instance > if Raja Yoga or even good meditation techniques was being taught to > children in a connon sense way. > > When I come back I want it to be easy to find. I guess the reason I > want something to get my mind straight is I feel that the website you > are referring to is an indication I will really need it. > > > > Love and peace to you. Ed > > Peace > Bobby G. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:42:11 -0000 > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > Re: Next time > > , "ginkomimosah" > <ginkomimosah> wrote: > > In , "texasbg2000" > <Bigbobgraham@a...> > > wrote: > > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to become the > > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really popular so > I > > can use it the next time I am born along with the other children so > > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this time > > around. > > > > Love > > Bobby G. > > > > "MY HEART LEAPS UP WHEN I BEHOLD" > > by William Wordsworth 1802 > > > > My heart leaps up when I behold > > A rainbow in the sky: > > So was it when my life began; > > So is it now I am a man; > > So be it when I shall grow old, > > Or let me die! > > The Child is father of the Man; > > I could wish my days to be > > Bound each to each by natural piety. > > Very Nice Ginkom. > > The beauty is always there isn't it? > > Love > Bobby G. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:56:18 -0000 > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > Re: Next time > > , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote: > > on 3/30/03 5:04 AM, texasbg2000 at Bigbobgraham@a... wrote: > > > > > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to become the > > > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really popular so > I > > > can use it the next time I am born along with the other children > so > > > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this time > > > around. > > > > > > Love > > > Bobby G. > > > > > > D: Why then is samsara- creation and manifestation as finitised- > so full of > > sorrow and evil? > > > > M: God's will! > > > > D: Why does God will it so? > > > > M: It is inscrutable. No motive can be attributed to that Power- > no desire, > > no end to achieve can be asserted of that one Infinite, All-wise and > > All-powerful Being. God is untouched by activities, which take > place in His > > presence; compare the sun and the world activities. There is no > meaning in > > attributing responsibility and motive to the One before it becomes > many. But > > God's will for the prescribed course of events is a good solution > of the > > free-will problem (vexata quaestio). If the mind is restless on > account of a > > sense of the imperfect and unsatisfactory character of what befalls > us or > > what is committed or ommitted by us, then it is wise to drop the > sense of > > responsibilty and free-will by regarding ourselves as the ordained > > instuments of the All-wise and All-powerful, to do and suffer as He > pleases. > > He carries all burdens and gives us peace. > > > > from Talks > > > > )))))Shawn > > > Thanks Shawn. > Love > Bobby > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:03:37 -0500 > "Dale and Carol Wade" <caroldalewade > Re: The not so popular Canadian Goose, where they belong : ) > > Greetings Al...and Greetings All at , > > Thank you for the lovely photos of God's geese... > > With Love, > > Carol > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > 1 Apr 2003 11:01:16 -0000 > > File - > > > This spiritual discussion group is an open Satsang and is blessed by Sri Ramana Maharshi, the great Jnani Sage of Arunachala. a is in the best tradition of a joyous spiritual fellowship for facilitating the Recognition of the Eternal Reality that is One's Own Self. "I Am That!" This is the uncompromising, simple, and yet Radical Truth proclaimed in a variety of ways by the ancient and modern Sages of Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, and Taoism. In Advaita Vedanta, the highest teaching emphasizes the complete identity of the Individual Soul with the Supreme Soul. In Tibetan Buddhism, Dzogchen is considered the supreme teaching and represents the nondual focus on one's innate wakefulness. How beautiful the variety of expressions in so many different traditions! We embrace this variety with great joy and in fellowship in a. > > No religion or teacher or tradition has a monopoly on the Essential Truth of Reality which is Our Own Nature. In this context, a focuses on the aspirations and experiences of individuals on the spiritual path. Everyone interested in any of the Shiva and Shakti traditions, and the related yogic and tantric paths as well as those practicing primarily the cognitive methods of the pure nondual teachings of great Jnanis such as Ramana Maharshi are welcome to join. The discussions are typically expected to focus on Self-Realization, Kundalini Shakti and Its Manifestations, God-Realization, the Goddess, Enlightenment, and various types of Samadhis (Savikalpa and Nirvikalpa). Discussion of various teachers and teachings can also be enriching as long as there is mutual respect and a feeling of amity in the conversation. Humor and poetry and other artistic expressions of the spiritual life are encouraged and supported. May God Bless everyone with Peace, Joy, and Understanding. > May we all nourish and heal each other in the spirit of Compassion, Wisdom and Love. OM Shanti, Shanti, Shanti. Peace to all living beings. > > Harsha > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 19:20:31 -0000 > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > Patanjali #7 > > Hi Everyone: > > Previously on Patanjali #6: > > bg-Pantanjali lists the obstacles to concentration. > > I.30. These are the obstacles. Sickness, languor, doubt, > heedlessness, sloth, dissipation, false vision, non-attaining of the > stages of Yoga, and instability in these stages are the distractions > of consciousness. > > I.31. The accompanying symptoms of the distractions are pain, > depression, tremor of the limbs, wrong inhalation and exhalation. > > I.32. In order to counteract these distractions the yogin should > resort to the practice of concentration on a single principle. > > bg-Practice of a single principle seems to mean pick one and stick > with it to attain the ability it promises. The next seven aphorisms > (I.33-I.39) describe these principles. > > Feuerstein: > I.33. The projection of friendliness, compassion, gladness and > equanimity towards objects- be they joyful, sorrowful, meritorious or > demeritorious- bring about the pacification of consciousness. > > I.34. Or restriction is achieved by the controlled expulsion and > retention of the breath. > or, > D'Andrade; > I.34. Or one gains stability through breath control, maintaining a > harmonious rhythm of exhalation and rest. > > Feuerstein: > I.35. Or restriction comes about when an object centered activity > has arisen which holds the mind in steadiness. > > I.36. Or restriction is achieved by mental activities which are > sorrowless and illuminating. (bg-according to Vyasa this activity is > a 'heart meditation') > > I.37. Or restriction is achieved when consciousness is directed to > those beings who have conquered attachment. > > I.38. Or restriction is achieved when consciousness is resting on > the insight arising from dreams and sleep. > > I.39. Or restriction is achieved through meditative absorption as > desired. > or, > D'Andrade: > I.39. Or one gains stability through meditation on what is precious > to one's heart. > > Feuerstein: > I.40. His mastery extends from the most minute to the greatest > magnitude. > (bg-Any of the ways described, once mastered allows restriction of > ANY fluctuation of consciousness.) > > > It occurs to me that what I call meditation is the actual focusing on > one of these principles. The next stage is described later. It is > called Dhyana, which is self sustaining and automatic. It precedes > Samadhi. Samadhi is the active elimation of ego where grasper, > grasped, and grasping are coincident. > > Love > Bobby G. > > PS-Vyasa was the first commentator on Patanjali and may be closer to > the original context of Yoga Sutra than later commentators. > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 12 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 20:44:23 -0000 > "know_mystery" <know_mystery > Re: The anser > > Hi Alan - > > Thanks for your ongoing waterfowl photos. You're right about this > being an opportunity for a fox. Here, the geese and swans remain year > round, although i think they may have regretted it during this year's > harsh winter. > > love and peace to all, > joyce > > , "Al Larus" <alarus@o...> wrote: > > Birds quickly loose their fear of humans when they are hungry. > These geese are very shy, but it seems this flock arrived too early > this year. > > The ice is still thick on the lakes, and the fields are covered > with snow. > > Below are some whooping swans on a field a bit further south, > propably just waiting, they are on the way far north. > > If I came closer than about 100m they began to move. Here is a nice > chance for a fox at night. > > > > > > > > > > Alan > > - > > know_mystery > > > > Monday, March 24, 2003 1:34 AM > > Re: The anser > > > > > > , "Al Larus" <alarus@o...> > wrote: > > > Anser anser. > > > Greylag goose. > > > > > > Beautiful, Alan. How did you get so upcloseandpersonal with this > > gorgeous goose? > > > > love and peace to all, > > joyce > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 13 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 20:39:01 -0000 > "know_mystery" <know_mystery > Re: Patanjali #7 > > Hi Bobby G - > > As always, i am grateful when you share Patanjali with us here. Thank > you! > > love and peace to all, > joyce > > > , "texasbg2000" > <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone: > > > > Previously on Patanjali #6: > > > > bg-Pantanjali lists the obstacles to concentration. > > > > I.30. These are the obstacles. Sickness, languor, doubt, > > heedlessness, sloth, dissipation, false vision, non-attaining of > the > > stages of Yoga, and instability in these stages are the > distractions > > of consciousness. > > > > I.31. The accompanying symptoms of the distractions are pain, > > depression, tremor of the limbs, wrong inhalation and exhalation. > > > > I.32. In order to counteract these distractions the yogin should > > resort to the practice of concentration on a single principle. > > > > bg-Practice of a single principle seems to mean pick one and stick > > with it to attain the ability it promises. The next seven aphorisms > > (I.33-I.39) describe these principles. > > > > Feuerstein: > > I.33. The projection of friendliness, compassion, gladness and > > equanimity towards objects- be they joyful, sorrowful, meritorious > or > > demeritorious- bring about the pacification of consciousness. > > > > I.34. Or restriction is achieved by the controlled expulsion and > > retention of the breath. > > or, > > D'Andrade; > > I.34. Or one gains stability through breath control, maintaining a > > harmonious rhythm of exhalation and rest. > > > > Feuerstein: > > I.35. Or restriction comes about when an object centered activity > > has arisen which holds the mind in steadiness. > > > > I.36. Or restriction is achieved by mental activities which are > > sorrowless and illuminating. (bg-according to Vyasa this activity > is > > a 'heart meditation') > > > > I.37. Or restriction is achieved when consciousness is directed to > > those beings who have conquered attachment. > > > > I.38. Or restriction is achieved when consciousness is resting on > > the insight arising from dreams and sleep. > > > > I.39. Or restriction is achieved through meditative absorption as > > desired. > > or, > > D'Andrade: > > I.39. Or one gains stability through meditation on what is precious > > to one's heart. > > > > Feuerstein: > > I.40. His mastery extends from the most minute to the greatest > > magnitude. > > (bg-Any of the ways described, once mastered allows restriction of > > ANY fluctuation of consciousness.) > > > > > > It occurs to me that what I call meditation is the actual focusing > on > > one of these principles. The next stage is described later. It is > > called Dhyana, which is self sustaining and automatic. It precedes > > Samadhi. Samadhi is the active elimation of ego where grasper, > > grasped, and grasping are coincident. > > > > Love > > Bobby G. > > > > PS-Vyasa was the first commentator on Patanjali and may be closer > to > > the original context of Yoga Sutra than later commentators. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 14 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:50:08 -0500 > Harsha > [Fwd: The Dalai Lama on war and the Iraq conflict] > > > > ------- > The Dalai Lama on war and the Iraq conflict > Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:03:12 -0800 > Lee Robbins <LeeRobbins > "MSR List" <msrlist > <msrlist > > > > Dear MSR colleagues, > Not that it provides "answers" but I though you might find the following > of interest during these troubled times. > > Lee Robbins, MSR Chair <LeeRobbins > 415-552-9800, 415-442-7027 > 4433 17th St. > San Francisco, CA. 94114 > work FAX: 415-442-6579 > > > > HIS HOLINESS THE DALAI LAMA'S VIEWS ON WAR AND IRAQ CONFLICT > March 11 2003, in Dharamsala > > The following is the English translation of His Holiness the Dalai > Lama's views on war and Iraq conflict shared with Buddhist devotees and > others on the first day of the Great Prayer Festival. > > http://www.tibet.com/NewsRoom/iraq1.htm > > The Iraq issue is becoming very critical now. War, or the kind of > organized fighting, is something that came with the development of human > civilization. It seems to have become part and parcel of human history > or human temperament. At the same time, the world is changing > dramatically. We have seen that we cannot solve human problems by > fighting. Problems resulting from differences in opinion must be > resolved through the gradual process of dialogue. Undoubtedly, wars > produce victors and losers; but only temporarily. Victory or defeat > resulting from wars cannot be long lasting. Secondly, our world has > become so interdependent that the defeat of one country must impact the > rest of the word, or cause all of us to suffer losses either directly or > indirectly. > > Today, the world is so small and so interdependent that the concept of > war has become anachronistic, an outmoded approach. As a rule, we always > talk about reform and changes. Among the old traditions, there are many > aspects that are either ill-suited to our present reality or are > counterproductive due to their shortsightedness. These, we have > consigned to the dustbin of history. War too should be relegated to the > dustbin of history. > > Unfortunately, although we are in the 21st century, we still have not > been able to get rid of the habit of our older generations. I am talking > about the belief or confidence that we can solve our problems with arms. > It is because of this notion that the world continues to be dogged by > all kinds of problems. > > But what can we do? What can we do when big powers have already made up > their minds? All we can do is to pray for a gradual end to the tradition > of wars. Of course, the militaristic tradition may not end easily. But, > let us think of this. If there were bloodshed, people in positions of > power, or those who are responsible, will find safe places; they will > escape the consequent hardship. They will find safety for themselves, > one way or the other. But what about the poor people, the defenseless > people, the children, the old and infirm. They are the ones who will > have to bear the brunt of devastation. When weapons are fired, the > result will be death and destruction. Weapons will not discriminate > between the innocent and guilty. > A missile, once fired, will show no respect to the innocent, poor, > defenseless, or those worthy of compassion. Therefore, the real losers > will be the poor and defenseless, ones who are completely innocent, and > those who lead a hand-to-mouth existence. > > On the positive side, we now have people volunteer medical care, aid, > and other humanitarian assistance in war-torn regions. This is a > heart-winning development of the modern age. > > Okay, now, let us pray that there be no war at all, if possible. > However, if a war does break out, let us pray that there be a minimum > bloodshed and hardship. I don't know whether our prayers will be of any > practical help. But this is all we can do for the moment. > > > Translated and issued by: > The Department of Information and International Relations > Central Tibetan Administration > Dharamsala INDIA > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 15 > Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:29:55 -0500 > "AYN" <ayezzi > Re: Re: Next time > > Try Eckhart Tolle...... THE POWER OF NOW>... > - > texasbg2000 > > Monday, March 31, 2003 8:34 PM > Re: Next time > > > , "stillpointed" <eea@a...> > wrote: > > , "texasbg2000" > > <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote: > > > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to become > the > > > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really popular so > I > > > can use it the next time I am born along with the other children > so > > > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this time > > > around. > > > > > > Love > > > Bobby G. > > > > OK Bobby, take a good look at this: > > > > http://iisd1.iisd.ca/pcdf/civilsociety/path.htm > > Hi Ed: > > Not too much there I was not familiar with. It is all political and > I was referring to something I can do as a discipline. For instance > if Raja Yoga or even good meditation techniques was being taught to > children in a connon sense way. > > When I come back I want it to be easy to find. I guess the reason I > want something to get my mind straight is I feel that the website you > are referring to is an indication I will really need it. > > > > Love and peace to you. Ed > > Peace > Bobby G. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > /join > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 16 > Wed, 2 Apr 2003 00:15:51 +0100 > "AnneChris" <am009a8716 > Re: Re: Next time > > > - > AYN > > Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:29 AM > Re: Re: Next time > > > Try Eckhart Tolle...... THE POWER OF NOW>... > I can second that. > After all the books all the mantra several Gurus. I made the most "progress" by realizing I am allready complete in the process of reading The Power Of Now. > All the unaswered questions for me were answered. His videos are excellent not that you really need them. > Chris > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 17 > Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:15:53 -0000 > "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham > Re: Next time > > , "AYN" <ayezzi@c...> wrote: > > Try Eckhart Tolle...... THE POWER OF NOW>... > > Thanks Ayn. > > Bobby G. > > > - > > texasbg2000 > > > > Monday, March 31, 2003 8:34 PM > > Re: Next time > > > > > > , "stillpointed" <eea@a...> > > wrote: > > > , "texasbg2000" > > > <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote: > > > > I hope that someone comes up with a really great way to > become > > the > > > > people we are supposed to become and it becomes really > popular so > > I > > > > can use it the next time I am born along with the other > children > > so > > > > we can all utilize the potential we seem to be missing this > time > > > > around. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > Bobby G. > > > > > > OK Bobby, take a good look at this: > > > > > > http://iisd1.iisd.ca/pcdf/civilsociety/path.htm > > > > Hi Ed: > > > > Not too much there I was not familiar with. It is all political > and > > I was referring to something I can do as a discipline. For > instance > > if Raja Yoga or even good meditation techniques was being taught > to > > children in a connon sense way. > > > > When I come back I want it to be easy to find. I guess the > reason I > > want something to get my mind straight is I feel that the website > you > > are referring to is an indication I will really need it. > > > > > > Love and peace to you. Ed > > > > Peace > > Bobby G. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.